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Come Inside... => The Commons => Topic started by: Nick on May 23, 2016, 02:54:56 PM
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/chilcot-report-tony-blair-set-to-be-savaged-in-absolutely-brutal-iraq-war-inquiry-verdict-a7041926.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/chilcot-report-tony-blair-set-to-be-savaged-in-absolutely-brutal-iraq-war-inquiry-verdict-a7041926.html)
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/chilcot-report-tony-blair-set-to-be-savaged-in-absolutely-brutal-iraq-war-inquiry-verdict-a7041926.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/chilcot-report-tony-blair-set-to-be-savaged-in-absolutely-brutal-iraq-war-inquiry-verdict-a7041926.html)
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Was Bliar an In or Out campaigner?
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/chilcot-report-tony-blair-set-to-be-savaged-in-absolutely-brutal-iraq-war-inquiry-verdict-a7041926.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/chilcot-report-tony-blair-set-to-be-savaged-in-absolutely-brutal-iraq-war-inquiry-verdict-a7041926.html)
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Although from that article Blair is in for a lot less flak than many have suggested.
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We can only hope, but I fear "Teflon Tony" will prevail.
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We can only hope, but I fear "Teflon Tony" will prevail.
I'm with you Uncle.... noooo:
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What I could never understand was why he wasn't asked this question:
"Mr Blair did you not think it was your duty to ask the Intelligence Services "are you just telling me what you think I want to hear"
Whether that failure to ask amounts to manslaughter by negligence is debateable but the truth is he didn't need to lie so almost certainly didn't. The career/honour ambitions of the Intelligence heads did it all for him. evil: evil: evil:
Someone needs to go to jail over it.
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What I could never understand was why he wasn't asked this question:
"Mr Blair did you not think it was your duty to ask the Intelligence Services "are you just telling me what you think I want to hear"
Whether that failure to ask amounts to manslaughter by negligence is debateable but the truth is he didn't need to lie so almost certainly didn't. The career/honour ambitions of the Intelligence heads did it all for him. evil: evil: evil:
Someone needs to go to jail over it.
If Chilcott doesn't ask it then surely the families of those killed and maimed as a result of this whole debacle can ask it in civil cases. Something tells me that having to fork out most of his ill gotten gains in compensation would hurt Tony far more than the vague chance of prison time. rubschin:
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What I could never understand was why he wasn't asked this question:
"Mr Blair did you not think it was your duty to ask the Intelligence Services "are you just telling me what you think I want to hear"
Whether that failure to ask amounts to manslaughter by negligence is debateable but the truth is he didn't need to lie so almost certainly didn't. The career/honour ambitions of the Intelligence heads did it all for him. evil: evil: evil:
Someone needs to go to jail over it.
If Chilcott doesn't ask it then surely the families of those killed and maimed as a result of this whole debacle can ask it in civil cases. Something tells me that having to fork out most of his ill gotten gains in compensation would hurt Tony far more than the vague chance of prison time. rubschin:
Civil case? Two hopes at best.
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Charging the families of the service personnel who lost their lives £767 for a hard copy of the Chilcot report. You insensitive money grabbing two faced bastards. "Oh but we are offering them the chance to look at the 30 page summary online for free" you say. A 30 page summary of a report that is by all accounts 3 times the size of Tolstoy's War and Peace. Just how much are you hoping to bury with this act? Chilcott troughed £750 a day while dragging out this report, are you seriously telling me that you can't afford to give the families the damn thing for free. Hell if it's printing costs give them a digital copy to download. Banghead
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3623590/Families-British-troops-killed-Iraq-pay-767-read-copy-Chilcot-report.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3623590/Families-British-troops-killed-Iraq-pay-767-read-copy-Chilcot-report.html)
Massive cutbacks, kit not fit for purpose, minimal support for injured veterans and now this? I'm amazed that people still consider joining the armed forces these days. Just goes to show that unlike in the halls of power there are still those who believe in putting their country before their own ambitions.
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cussing: cussing: cussing:
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Charging the families of the service personnel who lost their lives £767 for a hard copy of the Chilcot report. You insensitive money grabbing two faced bastards. "Oh but we are offering them the chance to look at the 30 page summary online for free" you say. A 30 page summary of a report that is by all accounts 3 times the size of Tolstoy's War and Peace. Just how much are you hoping to bury with this act? Chilcott troughed £750 a day while dragging out this report, are you seriously telling me that you can't afford to give the families the damn thing for free. Hell if it's printing costs give them a digital copy to download. Banghead
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3623590/Families-British-troops-killed-Iraq-pay-767-read-copy-Chilcot-report.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3623590/Families-British-troops-killed-Iraq-pay-767-read-copy-Chilcot-report.html)
Massive cutbacks, kit not fit for purpose, minimal support for injured veterans and now this? I'm amazed that people still consider joining the armed forces these days. Just goes to show that unlike in the halls of power there are still those who believe in putting their country before their own ambitions.
So was it never true or has a U Turn taken place?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36442521 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36442521)
"Chilcot inquiry: Families will get free copy of £767 report"
Smart money would say some idiot erk has been given a right Spank2: for not engaging brain and checking before talking to the press
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It was a Uturn, the families were only going to get a free online version of the summary originally.
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Bastards! cussing:
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A move to impeach Teflon Tony....? cloud9:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3670751/MPs-say-ll-use-ancient-law-impeach-Tony-Blair-misleading-Parliament-Iraq-war-wake-Chilcot-report.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3670751/MPs-say-ll-use-ancient-law-impeach-Tony-Blair-misleading-Parliament-Iraq-war-wake-Chilcot-report.html)
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A move to impeach Teflon Tony....? cloud9:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3670751/MPs-say-ll-use-ancient-law-impeach-Tony-Blair-misleading-Parliament-Iraq-war-wake-Chilcot-report.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3670751/MPs-say-ll-use-ancient-law-impeach-Tony-Blair-misleading-Parliament-Iraq-war-wake-Chilcot-report.html)
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Blair's speech made him look like he was trying to win an Oscar noooo: cussing: cussing:
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So now it emerges that Sir Richard Dearlove deliberately misled Blair evil:
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/spy-chief-did-not-tell-blair-about-lies-of-key-source-c6grtpsqd (http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/spy-chief-did-not-tell-blair-about-lies-of-key-source-c6grtpsqd) (subscription) Also detail referenced in this source (http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/chilcot-report-mi6-head-backed-intelligence-about-saddams-wmds-given-by-proven-liar-1569546)
The head of MI6 told Tony Blair that he remained confident about intelligence on Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction despite knowing that a key source was a proven liar, the Chilcot report reveals.
Sir Richard Dearlove backed the intelligence on Iraq in a letter to the prime minister in July 2003, 24 hours after MI6 quietly withdrew a claim that Saddam Hussein was still making WMD. The agency had concluded that its source was “a fabricator who had lied from the outset”. It even believed that his claims may have been inspired by a fictional chemical weapon in the American action film The Rock.
MI6 did not tell Mr Blair that the source had been discredited. The prime minister only found out several months later as a result of a Whitehall review on the handling of intelligence about Iraq.
So maybe if anyone it is Dearlove that needs to go to jail, go directly to jail and not pass Go. Certainly a case to have his knighthood AND pension removed
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So now it emerges that Sir Richard Dearlove deliberately misled Blair evil:
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/spy-chief-did-not-tell-blair-about-lies-of-key-source-c6grtpsqd (http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/spy-chief-did-not-tell-blair-about-lies-of-key-source-c6grtpsqd) (subscription) Also detail referenced in this source (http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/chilcot-report-mi6-head-backed-intelligence-about-saddams-wmds-given-by-proven-liar-1569546)
The head of MI6 told Tony Blair that he remained confident about intelligence on Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction despite knowing that a key source was a proven liar, the Chilcot report reveals.
Sir Richard Dearlove backed the intelligence on Iraq in a letter to the prime minister in July 2003, 24 hours after MI6 quietly withdrew a claim that Saddam Hussein was still making WMD. The agency had concluded that its source was “a fabricator who had lied from the outset”. It even believed that his claims may have been inspired by a fictional chemical weapon in the American action film The Rock.
MI6 did not tell Mr Blair that the source had been discredited. The prime minister only found out several months later as a result of a Whitehall review on the handling of intelligence about Iraq.
So maybe if anyone it is Dearlove that needs to go to jail, go directly to jail and not pass Go. Certainly a case to have his knighthood AND pension removed
Bliar: "Now then Richard, don't tell me you have any doubts about this WMD business, I have promised to go to war alongside Bush"
Dearlove: "Well PM, we are no longer so sure..."
Bliar: "Didn't you hear me man? I said don't tell me"
Dearlove: "Yes, Prime Minister"
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And we have a new candidate for Nobel prize winner (for fiction obviously)