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Come Inside... => The Commons => Topic started by: Steve on November 16, 2013, 12:16:10 AM
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New report just out. Worrying imho.
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/257022/Traveller_Caravan_Count_release_-_July_2013__2_.pdf (https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/257022/Traveller_Caravan_Count_release_-_July_2013__2_.pdf)
• There were approximately 21,100 traveller caravans in England in July 2013, up 1,700 (9 per cent) from 19,400 a year earlier.
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• 2,100 caravans were in unauthorised developments on land owned by travellers in July 2013, up 300 from a year earlier.
• 2,700 caravans were in unauthorised encampments on land not owned by travellers in July 2013, up 1,300 from a year earlier. These included the caravans at the festival mentioned above.
rubschin:
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Tipsy........ rubschin:
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New report just out. Worrying imho.
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/257022/Traveller_Caravan_Count_release_-_July_2013__2_.pdf (https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/257022/Traveller_Caravan_Count_release_-_July_2013__2_.pdf)
• There were approximately 21,100 traveller caravans in England in July 2013, up 1,700 (9 per cent) from 19,400 a year earlier.
. . .
• 2,100 caravans were in unauthorised developments on land owned by travellers in July 2013, up 300 from a year earlier.
• 2,700 caravans were in unauthorised encampments on land not owned by travellers in July 2013, up 1,300 from a year earlier. These included the caravans at the festival mentioned above.
rubschin:
Travellers Pikeys are above the law now.... they can do as they wish - mostly funded by the taxpayer....
No doubt it will all get much better when thousands of Roma arrive in January.....
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New report just out. Worrying imho.
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/257022/Traveller_Caravan_Count_release_-_July_2013__2_.pdf (https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/257022/Traveller_Caravan_Count_release_-_July_2013__2_.pdf)
• There were approximately 21,100 traveller caravans in England in July 2013, up 1,700 (9 per cent) from 19,400 a year earlier.
. . .
• 2,100 caravans were in unauthorised developments on land owned by travellers in July 2013, up 300 from a year earlier.
• 2,700 caravans were in unauthorised encampments on land not owned by travellers in July 2013, up 1,300 from a year earlier. These included the caravans at the festival mentioned above.
rubschin:
Travellers Pikeys are above the law now.... they can do as they wish - mostly funded by the taxpayer....
No doubt it will all get much better when thousands of Roma arrive in January.....
Does every country have them? Recently saw something about them in USA which surprised me, don't know why? Shrugs:
But equally, why should the Country you are in at the time have its hand on every penny you earn, save, spend etc. I think maybe they are there to remind us of the other end of the spectrum and its about time we moved towards them and away from the strangle hold Governments and Employers have on individuals.
So there!
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What got me was the irony of discovering on Children in Need day this report was issued showing families bringing up children in illegal homes.
I've no issue with legal travellers where that is their historical lifestyle but why are there so many illegal travellers and so many new travellers? And are they there because of no other choice or because of deliberate opting out of laws.
We should be tough on illegal travellers and tough on the causes of illegal travellers - I'm just not sure what the latter are and suspect we may be a part of the cause.
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New report just out. Worrying imho.
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/257022/Traveller_Caravan_Count_release_-_July_2013__2_.pdf (https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/257022/Traveller_Caravan_Count_release_-_July_2013__2_.pdf)
• There were approximately 21,100 traveller caravans in England in July 2013, up 1,700 (9 per cent) from 19,400 a year earlier.
. . .
• 2,100 caravans were in unauthorised developments on land owned by travellers in July 2013, up 300 from a year earlier.
• 2,700 caravans were in unauthorised encampments on land not owned by travellers in July 2013, up 1,300 from a year earlier. These included the caravans at the festival mentioned above.
rubschin:
Travellers Pikeys are above the law now.... they can do as they wish - mostly funded by the taxpayer....
No doubt it will all get much better when thousands of Roma arrive in January.....
Does every country have them? Recently saw something about them in USA which surprised me, don't know why? Shrugs:
But equally, why should the Country you are in at the time have its hand on every penny you earn, save, spend etc. I think maybe they are there to remind us of the other end of the spectrum and its about time we moved towards them and away from the strangle hold Governments and Employers have on individuals.
So there!
Well said....... Thumbs:
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New report just out. Worrying imho.
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/257022/Traveller_Caravan_Count_release_-_July_2013__2_.pdf (https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/257022/Traveller_Caravan_Count_release_-_July_2013__2_.pdf)
• There were approximately 21,100 traveller caravans in England in July 2013, up 1,700 (9 per cent) from 19,400 a year earlier.
. . .
• 2,100 caravans were in unauthorised developments on land owned by travellers in July 2013, up 300 from a year earlier.
• 2,700 caravans were in unauthorised encampments on land not owned by travellers in July 2013, up 1,300 from a year earlier. These included the caravans at the festival mentioned above.
rubschin:
Travellers Pikeys are above the law now.... they can do as they wish - mostly funded by the taxpayer....
No doubt it will all get much better when thousands of Roma arrive in January.....
Does every country have them? Recently saw something about them in USA which surprised me, don't know why? Shrugs:
But equally, why should the Country you are in at the time have its hand on every penny you earn, save, spend etc. I think maybe they are there to remind us of the other end of the spectrum and its about time we moved towards them and away from the strangle hold Governments and Employers have on individuals.
So there!
Well said....... Thumbs:
Don't agree or disagree.........................there will always be a need for tarmac noooo:
However spooky personal experience is that petty crime generally increases whenever a new camp of travellers appears ..... just can't work out why that is whistle: