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Come Inside... => The Commons => Topic started by: Barman on August 27, 2013, 01:16:12 PM
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Holy fuck - here we go again! (http://order-order.com/2013/08/27/parliament-recalled/) Banghead
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ANother disaster waiting to happen. Isn't this all just posturing?
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Have you noticed that our Special Envoy to the Middle East has been VERY quiet about the whole situation. Does anyone think he's actually doing anything about this or more likely is he just sunning himself somewhere hot and exclusive.
As far as taking military action against Syria is concerned have we actually got anything left to field. Between the gutting of the armed forces and our current commitments I get the feeling all we have left to use are a couple of platoons of TA's and the Army Cadets.
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Quite so.
They could give me a bazooca though rubschin:
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Actually we could just threaten to parachute you into Assad's compound with a load of badgers. rubschin:
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To give him TB?
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Touch and Boom? rubschin:
Unless Russia agrees to anything I can't see there being any meaningful military action and as they have a vested interest in keeping the current regime in place I can't see them agreeing to anything.
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ANother disaster waiting to happen. Isn't this all just posturing?
Even posturing is dangerous.
Just arm the majority secular rebels at Saudi expense and let them get rid of Assad. Just sending them not much more than packed lunches and rain wear plays straight into the hands of the fringe jihadist opposition
But good that we get a parliamentary debate, not sure Hague will like the way it goes.
And Meister, you'll find that our Special Envoy has said quite a lot.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/10267283/Tony-Blair-military-intervention-in-Syria-vital-to-prevent-breeding-ground-for-extremism.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/10267283/Tony-Blair-military-intervention-in-Syria-vital-to-prevent-breeding-ground-for-extremism.html)
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Get the Israelis to do it.
What a wonderful irony to have the victorious rebels in debt to the Zionists.
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Somebody wondered where our Special (Peace) Envoy to the Middle East (one Tony B-Liar) was -
Well, here the little twat is! (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2402354/Peace-envoy-Tony-Blair-yacht-Mediterranean-West-debates-air-strikes-Syria.html)
Larging it up at someone else's expense as usual . . . . .
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Get the Israelis to do it.
What a wonderful irony to have the victorious rebels in debt to the Zionists.
Shouldn't take that much effort for them to change the plans they had for strikes on Iran. rubschin:
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As written elsewhere, "seal the borders and let them fight it out like rats in a sack".
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And, even if they do decide to intervene, let's not forget this has been going on for at least 2 1/2 years.
WARNING - EXTREMELY GRAPHIC CONTENT
http://bastardoldholborn.blogspot.co.uk/2011/04/spare-thought.html (http://bastardoldholborn.blogspot.co.uk/2011/04/spare-thought.html)
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And, even if they do decide to intervene, let's not forget this has been going on for at least 2 1/2 years.
WARNING - EXTREMELY GRAPHIC CONTENT
http://bastardoldholborn.blogspot.co.uk/2011/04/spare-thought.html (http://bastardoldholborn.blogspot.co.uk/2011/04/spare-thought.html)
sick2: sick2: Not kidding it is very graphic ..... eeek:
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Nigel Farage on West's desire to bomb Syria to 'sort it out' (28Aug13) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pxp61tYJcw#)
happ096
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BTW .............told you so ........a few months ago...... noooo:
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He is right. But I expect to see news of missiles hitting Damascus shortly.
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BTW .............told you so ........a few months ago...... noooo:
You did! Thumbs:
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BTW .............told you so ........a few months ago...... noooo:
You did! Thumbs:
I said we would get dragged into it too ... It was bound to happen evil:
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I would not prejudge tomorrow's vote too soon. A lot of MPs are going to be unhappy with any motion that allows military intervention
Before we try direct action surely the honest thing to do if we believe Russia is supporting a user of WMD is to impose an economic embargo on Russia
Can anyone see such honesty happening? Course not
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Nigel Farage on West's desire to bomb Syria to 'sort it out' (28Aug13) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pxp61tYJcw#)
happ096
My mate Nigel. :D He told me he thought BM was a "weapons grade cock". Perceptive man :P:P:P
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Nigel Farage on West's desire to bomb Syria to 'sort it out' (28Aug13) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pxp61tYJcw#)
happ096
My mate Nigel. :D He told me he thought BM was a "weapons grade cock". Perceptive man :P:P:P
He bleddy didn't! evil:
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Nigel Farage on West's desire to bomb Syria to 'sort it out' (28Aug13) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pxp61tYJcw#)
happ096
My mate Nigel. :D He told me he thought BM was a "weapons grade cock". Perceptive man :P:P:P
He bleddy didn't! evil:
Bleddy did too. Also "is he going to buy a drink". I then informed him of LL's curfew...
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Nigel Farage on West's desire to bomb Syria to 'sort it out' (28Aug13) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pxp61tYJcw#)
happ096
My mate Nigel. :D He told me he thought BM was a "weapons grade cock". Perceptive man :P:P:P
He bleddy didn't! evil:
Bleddy did too. Also "is he going to buy a drink". I then informed him of LL's curfew...
I bought the beers! cussing:
I seem to remember Nige resting his on your little head! point:
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Nigel Farage on West's desire to bomb Syria to 'sort it out' (28Aug13) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pxp61tYJcw#)
happ096
My mate Nigel. :D He told me he thought BM was a "weapons grade cock". Perceptive man :P:P:P
He bleddy didn't! evil:
Bleddy did too. Also "is he going to buy a drink". I then informed him of LL's curfew...
I bought the beers! cussing:
I seem to remember Nige resting his on your little head! point:
Even though I'm taller than him? Think you may have had too many Spitfire's by then...alcohol can do this to the elderly brain...
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:thumbsup:
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Nigel Farage on West's desire to bomb Syria to 'sort it out' (28Aug13) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pxp61tYJcw#)
happ096
My mate Nigel. :D He told me he thought BM was a "weapons grade cock". Perceptive man :P:P:P
He bleddy didn't! evil:
Bleddy did too. Also "is he going to buy a drink". I then informed him of LL's curfew...
I bought the beers! cussing:
I seem to remember Nige resting his on your little head! point:
Even though I'm taller than him? Think you may have had too many Spitfire's by then...alcohol can do this to the elderly brain...
Oh yes, he had to stand on a ladder to reach.... ::)
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***Cough*** The Commons
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***Cough*** The Commons
redface:
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Told you to have more faith in Parliament
David Cameron loses Commons vote on Syria action (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23892783)
What a fool. A true statesman never overreaches and then has to retreat. And Cameron was in retreat when he opened up the debate. I liked Cameron, he did much good but a busted flush is always beyond repair and he looks a very busted flush right now.
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Told you to have more faith in Parliament
David Cameron loses Commons vote on Syria action (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23892783)
What a fool. A true statesman never overreaches and then has to retreat. And Cameron was in retreat when he opened up the debate. I liked Cameron, he did much good but a busted flush is always beyond repair and he looks a very busted flush right now.
There was only 13 votes in it while >50% of the country was against.... hardly representative democracy is it....? noooo:
Thankfully, not all the MPs voted along party lines this time....
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Told you to have more faith in Parliament
David Cameron loses Commons vote on Syria action (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23892783)
What a fool. A true statesman never overreaches and then has to retreat. And Cameron was in retreat when he opened up the debate. I liked Cameron, he did much good but a busted flush is always beyond repair and he looks a very busted flush right now.
There was only 13 votes in it while >50% of the country was against.... hardly representative democracy is it....? noooo:
rubschin:
What would you consider a suitable number of votes for and against to represent the views of just over half the population?
285 against out of 557 sounds like just over half to me, or am I missing something?
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Told you to have more faith in Parliament
David Cameron loses Commons vote on Syria action (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23892783)
What a fool. A true statesman never overreaches and then has to retreat. And Cameron was in retreat when he opened up the debate. I liked Cameron, he did much good but a busted flush is always beyond repair and he looks a very busted flush right now.
There was only 13 votes in it while >50% of the country was against.... hardly representative democracy is it....? noooo:
rubschin:
What would you consider a suitable number of votes for and against to represent the views of just over half the population?
285 against out of 557 sounds like just over half to me, or am I missing something?
I think the last poll I saw (can't find it now) had >50% against, 25% for and the rest 'don't knows'....
I suppose my (obviously poorly made point) was that the majority of MPs ignored the wishes of their constituents and voted as directed by the party.... but for a few strong willed (and as far as I can see more than a few cock-ups) we would now be heading towards intervention....
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Parliament did the right thing and seems all you can do is condemn it
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Parliament did the right thing and seems all you can do is condemn it
I think it came to the right conclusion but sadly for the wrong reasons....
I don't think the voting farce and Miliband's flip-flopping between supporting military action then being against it should fill us with confidence that the country is in safe hands... noooo:
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Parliament did the right thing and seems all you can do is condemn it
I think it came to the right conclusion but sadly for the wrong reasons....
I don't think the voting farce and Miliband's flip-flopping between supporting military action then being against it should fill us with confidence that the country is in safe hands... noooo:
I never said we were in safe hands or that politicians aren't sheep or stupid, all I did was to point out that more than 50% of MPs voting for what more than 50% of the population wanted was not a good example of democracy in decline.
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In general our politicians are less sheep like, less flip floppy, more honest and harder working than their constituents
So terribly undemocratic that
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In general our politicians are less sheep like, less flip floppy, more honest and harder working than their constituents
eeek:
Things must be very different on the planet Vegetar. Shocked:
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In general our politicians are less sheep like, less flip floppy, more honest and harder working than their constituents
eeek:
Things must be very different on the planet Vegetar. Shocked:
^^^ eeek: Wot Darwin said eeek: ^^^
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In general our politicians are less sheep like, less flip floppy, more honest and harder working than their constituents
eeek:
Things must be very different on the planet Vegetar. Shocked:
err no
Things must be very different in your reading of The Commons
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As we don't live in a true democracy, it doesn't really matter about numbers or what people think.
We elect people to think for us. noooo:
Parliamentary democracy rools.
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http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/britain-sold-nerve-gas-chemicals-2242520 (http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/britain-sold-nerve-gas-chemicals-2242520)
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That silly story has been around for ages.
Yes they could divert water purifying chemicals to make one of the commonly available component elements of the Sarin molecule that they already have in the country but why would they bother when Russia and Iran would happily supply the the finished product?