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Title: Syria
Post by: Uncle Mort on June 17, 2013, 09:09:11 PM
As far as I'm concerned the UK should just say it's nothing to do with us and stop trying to interfere.
Title: Re: Syria
Post by: boogs on June 17, 2013, 09:31:56 PM
As far as I'm concerned the UK should just say it's nothing to do with us and stop trying to interfere.

They can't resist can they ... poking noses in where they don't belong ... absolute madness they seem to think we are back in the late nineteenth century when we were a force to be reckoned with..

Apart from anything else we are virtually bankrupt so where the hell is the money to come from to get involved... Wholesale  cuts in our service personnel and another enemy without a uniform so they don't even know who the hell the enemy are . eeek:

My question is 'WHY' if it was us who would fucking care... Not the Syrian's  I'm sure... noooo:

Then what do I know... ::)
Title: Re: Syria
Post by: Barman on June 18, 2013, 04:42:09 AM
As far as I'm concerned the UK should just say it's nothing to do with us and stop trying to interfere.

They can't resist can they ... poking noses in where they don't belong ... absolute madness they seem to think we are back in the late nineteenth century when we were a force to be reckoned with..

Apart from anything else we are virtually bankrupt so where the hell is the money to come from to get involved... Wholesale  cuts in our service personnel and another enemy without a uniform so they don't even know who the hell the enemy are . eeek:

My question is 'WHY' if it was us who would fucking care... Not the Syrian's  I'm sure... noooo:

Then what do I know... ::)

Agree with both....  Thumbs:

This is an unfolding disaster that could spread to the entire region...  noooo:
Title: Re: Syria
Post by: Steve on June 18, 2013, 07:29:02 AM
. . .
This is an unfolding disaster that could spread to the entire region...  noooo:
And further if you take a turn a blind eye attitude

To me it's the "what would you do if you saw your neighbour stabbing his wife issue?"  Yes it's none of your business, yes you could get stabbed but what are the end effects of finding excuses for doing nothing?

You have to learn from history and the 1930's are a very good reference point



Title: Re: Syria
Post by: Barman on June 18, 2013, 07:33:02 AM
. . .
This is an unfolding disaster that could spread to the entire region...  noooo:
And further if you take a turn a blind eye attitude

To me it's the "what would you do if you saw your neighbour stabbing his wife issue?"  Yes it's none of your business, yes you could get stabbed but what are the end effects of finding excuses for doing nothing?

You have to learn from history and the 1930's are a very good reference point

Good point - you should obviously give the wife a bigger knife....
Title: Re: Syria
Post by: boogs on June 18, 2013, 07:59:24 AM
. . .
This is an unfolding disaster that could spread to the entire region...  noooo:
And further if you take a turn a blind eye attitude

To me it's the "what would you do if you saw your neighbour stabbing his wife issue?"  Yes it's none of your business, yes you could get stabbed but what are the end effects of finding excuses for doing nothing?

You have to learn from history and the 1930's are a very good reference point

No excuses it is their business let them get on with it ... The rest of us butt out.. If they choose to fight so be it . Why should our young people die for  something they prolly don't understand or want to  understand..
They signed up to defend us not god knows who because our PM wants to make a name for himself...  It just seems to me another Blair situation... Look at me I am going to make world peace ... Did fuck all but increase his personal fortune..
At least in the 1930"s  there was a threat of invaision and you knew who the enemy were  they know who our guys are .. evil:
Title: Re: Syria
Post by: Barman on June 18, 2013, 08:04:34 AM
. . .
This is an unfolding disaster that could spread to the entire region...  noooo:
And further if you take a turn a blind eye attitude

To me it's the "what would you do if you saw your neighbour stabbing his wife issue?"  Yes it's none of your business, yes you could get stabbed but what are the end effects of finding excuses for doing nothing?

You have to learn from history and the 1930's are a very good reference point

No excuses it is their business let them get on with it ... The rest of us butt out.. If they choose to fight so be it . Why should our young people die for  something they prolly don't understand or want to  understand..
They signed up to defend us not god knows who because our PM wants to make a name for himself...  It just seems to me another Blair situation... Look at me I am going to make world peace ... Did fuck all but increase his personal fortune..
At least in the 1930"s  there was a threat of invaision and you knew who the enemy were  they know who our guys are .. evil:

Indeed...

It is nothing to do with the UK and the 'people' we are planning to arm hate us and have vowed to destroy us...

It is amazing how the UK gubberment is so keen to dish arms out to every Muslim in the world yet has disarmed its own citizens....

... leaving them unable to defend themselves against Muslims who chose to hack them to death in broad daylight on the streets of London....
Title: Re: Syria
Post by: boogs on June 18, 2013, 08:11:41 AM
. . .
This is an unfolding disaster that could spread to the entire region...  noooo:
And further if you take a turn a blind eye attitude

To me it's the "what would you do if you saw your neighbour stabbing his wife issue?"  Yes it's none of your business, yes you could get stabbed but what are the end effects of finding excuses for doing nothing?

You have to learn from history and the 1930's are a very good reference point

No excuses it is their business let them get on with it ... The rest of us butt out.. If they choose to fight so be it . Why should our young people die for  something they prolly don't understand or want to  understand..
They signed up to defend us not god knows who because our PM wants to make a name for himself...  It just seems to me another Blair situation... Look at me I am going to make world peace ... Did fuck all but increase his personal fortune..
At least in the 1930"s  there was a threat of invaision and you knew who the enemy were  they know who our guys are .. evil:

Indeed...

It is nothing to do with the UK and the 'people' we are planning to arm hate us and have vowed to destroy us...

It is amazing how the UK gubberment is so keen to dish arms out to every Muslim in the world yet has disarmed its own citizens....

... leaving them unable to defend themselves against Muslims who chose to hack them to death in broad daylight on the streets of London....

Well said that man..... :thumbsup:(left)
Title: Re: Syria
Post by: Steve on June 18, 2013, 08:24:45 AM
So lets get this clear

If a man is forced to watch his wife and children being cluster bombed and two people want to help him.  One is an Islamic zealot and the other a reasonable guy then Boogs you would say to the reasonable guy no you must not help and if you do we will prosecute you.

A few facts BTW

Wasn't til 1940 that we were threatened, in the 30s I referred to we did 1st class hand wringing and stuff all else while Italy, Japan and later Germany were annexing all sorts of territory.  Guess what 1940 came after those events.

No one I know has suggested sending UK troops, just not making it illegal to send real help

Oh and the majority of armed opponents to Assad are secular
Title: Re: Syria
Post by: Darwins Selection on June 18, 2013, 10:05:36 AM
Like most of the middle East problems, the underlying problem is differing religious factions, much as Ulster was during the 'troubles'.

That was on 'our' home ground and it is barely sorted out today.
The fact that two slightly different shades of raghead choose to destroy each other makes no more sense and will be just as difficult to resolve.

They don't have much oil or anything else useful so we might as well let them slug it out.

Bring all the journalists out too, and stop showing us sad pictures of civilians who are caught up in it all every night on TV. 

Until 'embedded journalism' was invented for Vietnam, we were all quite happy not knowing about such things.

Freedom of the press is such an Albatross round the neck of our conscience.  noooo:
Title: Re: Syria
Post by: Uncle Mort on June 18, 2013, 12:02:33 PM
You have to learn from history and the 1930's are a very good reference point

I don't see how you can relate the rise of fascism to the current civil war in Syria. We did nothing in Thirties and countries were annexed. Do nothing in Syria and eventually either Assad will remain in power or he won't. It's not as if Syria is planning to annex Turkey and then invade Europe.
Title: Re: Syria
Post by: Barman on June 18, 2013, 12:30:04 PM
Like most of the middle East problems, the underlying problem is differing religious factions, much as Ulster was during the 'troubles'.

That was on 'our' home ground and it is barely sorted out today.
The fact that two slightly different shades of raghead choose to destroy each other makes no more sense and will be just as difficult to resolve.

They don't have much oil or anything else useful so we might as well let them slug it out.

Bring all the journalists out too, and stop showing us sad pictures of civilians who are caught up in it all every night on TV. 

Until 'embedded journalism' was invented for Vietnam, we were all quite happy not knowing about such things.

Freedom of the press is such an Albatross round the neck of our conscience.  noooo:

 happ096
Title: Re: Syria
Post by: Barman on June 18, 2013, 12:30:29 PM
You have to learn from history and the 1930's are a very good reference point

I don't see how you can relate the rise of fascism to the current civil war in Syria. We did nothing in Thirties and countries were annexed. Do nothing in Syria and eventually either Assad will remain in power or he won't. It's not as if Syria is planning to annex Turkey and then invade Europe.

 happ096
Title: Re: Syria
Post by: apc2010 on June 18, 2013, 12:48:12 PM
Think we have some refugees here now....... noooo:
Title: Re: Syria
Post by: Barman on June 18, 2013, 12:49:04 PM
Think we have some refugees here now....... noooo:

On the pub?  eeek:
Title: Re: Syria
Post by: apc2010 on June 18, 2013, 12:49:56 PM
Think we have some refugees here now....... noooo:

On the pub?  eeek:

Mong........ ::)
Title: Re: Syria
Post by: boogs on June 19, 2013, 02:11:02 PM
So lets get this clear

If a man is forced to watch his wife and children being cluster bombed and two people want to help him.  One is an Islamic zealot and the other a reasonable guy then Boogs you would say to the reasonable guy no you must not help and if you do we will prosecute you.

A few facts BTW

Wasn't til 1940 that we were threatened, in the 30s I referred to we did 1st class hand wringing and stuff all else while Italy, Japan and later Germany were annexing all sorts of territory.  Guess what 1940 came after those events.

No one I know has suggested sending UK troops, just not making it illegal to send real help

Oh and the majority of armed opponents to Assad are secular

I am well aware of the facts including the sending in of UK troops but we all know it will come in time...

I may not be the best with words on the board but I am not an idiot either and have a view obviously different to yours...

As such I have decided not to debate with you as I feel like crap and do not have the energy quite honestly so I think on this occasion we will need to agree to disagree... ;)
 

Title: Re: Syria
Post by: Baldy on June 19, 2013, 08:33:09 PM
Lezza, don't take the easy way out. Argue like crazy. Thumbs:
Title: Re: Syria
Post by: boogs on June 19, 2013, 08:36:17 PM
Lezza, don't take the easy way out. Argue like crazy. Thumbs:

Who are you calling a Lezza....  evil: only occasionally 
Title: Re: Syria
Post by: Baldy on June 19, 2013, 08:41:40 PM
The pussy brigade that choose the easy option. noooo:
Title: Re: Syria
Post by: boogs on June 19, 2013, 08:50:42 PM
The pussy brigade that choose the easy option. noooo:

 ::) ::) Got to be in the mood...
Title: Re: Syria
Post by: Baldy on June 19, 2013, 08:58:28 PM
You disappoint me. noooo:

Why don't you come to Cyprus instead of ginje, me and Foggy could point you in the right direction. Thumbs:
Title: Re: Syria
Post by: Uncle Mort on June 19, 2013, 09:23:24 PM
Anyhow ~ what's your opinion on the situation in Syria?
Title: Re: Syria
Post by: Steve on June 19, 2013, 10:14:50 PM
Anyhow ~ what's your opinion on the situation in Syria?
It seems Boogs and I both think that sometimes it's best to say what you think and then agree to disagree

Someone (not you) appears to have nothing to say other than he wants to see a fight.





Title: Re: Syria
Post by: boogs on June 20, 2013, 08:27:10 AM
You disappoint me. noooo:

Why don't you come to Cyprus instead of ginje, me and Foggy could point you in the right direction. Thumbs:

He could offer to bring me with his new found wealth.... You could find us accommodation and charge a fee... and flog some ky sun cream..  :thumbsup:

 redface:
Title: Re: Syria
Post by: apc2010 on June 20, 2013, 09:00:10 AM
You disappoint me. noooo:

Why don't you come to Cyprus instead of ginje, me and Foggy could point you in the right direction. Thumbs:

He could offer to bring me with his new found wealth.... You could find us accommodation and charge a fee... and flog some ky sun cream..  :thumbsup:

 redface:

A cunning plan....... rubschin:
Title: Re: Syria
Post by: boogs on June 20, 2013, 09:20:23 AM
You disappoint me. noooo:

Why don't you come to Cyprus instead of ginje, me and Foggy could point you in the right direction. Thumbs:

He could offer to bring me with his new found wealth.... You could find us accommodation and charge a fee... and flog some ky sun cream..  :thumbsup:

 redface:

A cunning plan....... rubschin:

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Syria
Post by: apc2010 on June 26, 2013, 03:30:04 PM
Troops from the UK are going to Syria ........they are here as a transit point ..they leave in 27 days ............don't ask how I know .....but I am sure the government will tell you soon ....... whistle:
Title: Re: Syria
Post by: Barman on June 26, 2013, 03:32:17 PM
Troops from the UK are going to Syria ........they are here as a transit point ..they leave in 27 days ............don't ask how I know .....but I am sure the government will tell you soon ....... whistle:

I hope you are wrong but I fear not....  noooo:

Every day on Forces Radio we hear about the next round of redundancies.... now we get involved in another endless conflict....  Banghead
Title: Re: Syria
Post by: apc2010 on June 26, 2013, 03:37:37 PM
Troops from the UK are going to Syria ........they are here as a transit point ..they leave in 27 days ............don't ask how I know .....but I am sure the government will tell you soon ....... whistle:

I hope you are wrong but I fear not....  noooo:

Every day on Forces Radio we hear about the next round of redundancies.... now we get involved in another endless conflict....  Banghead

Just after the G8 conference,.......... rubschin: