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Title: Operational Inefficiency
Post by: Just One More on January 23, 2012, 06:24:45 PM
I had a £60 speeding ticket in November. Because the car is from a leasing company it wasn't until mid December that I was made aware (I saw the flash but thought, "it's only one in ten that are loaded, I'll be OK"  ::) ) Once I confirmed that I was the driver they sent me the invoice on 28.12.11 giving me 28 days to pay, and I sent off my debit card and details and license on 13.01.12

When I got home on the evening of 20.01.12 I had received a reminder that it hadn't been paid, so I rang them this morning to find out why the money hadn't yet left my account. After a five minute wait my call was answered... "oh, yes, we received your letter on 16.01.12, so payment will be taken out soon, but I must warn you that at the moment we are just doing all the fines for 10.01.12  Banghead

I explained that I understood that they couldn't say that it had been paid yet, but surely it would have been helpful had they said that they were in receipt of my payment on the 16th, rather than just sending a reminder on the 18th that it hadn't been paid. Of course I got the usual, "oh, it's a computer that generates the reminder"

Given that today is the 23rd and they are only processing payments from the 10th, how much interest are they missing out on at £60 per fine  Banghead  Banghead  Banghead
Title: Re: Operational Inefficiency
Post by: Nick on January 23, 2012, 06:26:47 PM
 happy100
Title: Re: Operational Inefficiency
Post by: Just One More on January 23, 2012, 06:35:28 PM
I have no problem with the fine or the points, it's the inefficiency of their operation that angers me

On the flipside, I saw my dental hygienist today, £47 for the pleasure. I paid that, then asked for another appointment in three months time.
Her - "Oh, you 'll have to pay up front for that, and it'll be £50 for that appointment"
JOM - "I don't have £50 (I did), but I object to you having £50 of my money for three months when it could possibly be gaining interest for me"
Her - "Then you can't have an appointment"
JOM - "Well I'll ring nearer the time and make an appointment and payment then"
Her - "That'll be OK"

At least they know how to make a bit lot of money
Title: Re: Operational Inefficiency
Post by: Pirate on January 23, 2012, 06:51:41 PM
FFS JOM...Get rid of that Avartart...Its hideous...

Why don't you put that nice one up of Oliver Reed that you used to use...the one with all the snot dripping ...
Title: Re: Operational Inefficiency
Post by: apc2010 on January 23, 2012, 06:52:50 PM
All the speeding cameras here have been disabled .......for a few years..... :thumbsup:

Only the mobile hand held jobbers to look out for .......but they normally are in the same place all the time........also a big plus here is that other drivers ALL flash to warn you of any police .... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Operational Inefficiency
Post by: Nick on January 23, 2012, 06:53:40 PM
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Operational Inefficiency
Post by: apc2010 on January 23, 2012, 06:54:12 PM
FFS JOM...Get rid of that Avartart...Its hideous...

Why don't you put that nice one up of Oliver Reed that you used to use...the one with all the snot dripping ...

When I first saw it I nearly spat my beer out .......... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Operational Inefficiency
Post by: Barman on January 23, 2012, 06:58:57 PM
All the speeding cameras here have been disabled .......for a few years..... :thumbsup:

Only the mobile hand held jobbers to look out for .......but they normally are in the same place all the time........also a big plus here is that other drivers ALL flash to warn you of any police .... :thumbsup:

They've still caught me four times...  redface:
Title: Re: Operational Inefficiency
Post by: apc2010 on January 23, 2012, 07:00:52 PM
All the speeding cameras here have been disabled .......for a few years..... :thumbsup:

Only the mobile hand held jobbers to look out for .......but they normally are in the same place all the time........also a big plus here is that other drivers ALL flash to warn you of any police .... :thumbsup:

They've still caught me four times...  redface:

How............12 years driving here not one speeding fine.............(and yes my car can go that fast )
Title: Re: Operational Inefficiency
Post by: Nick on January 23, 2012, 07:02:33 PM
BM's car is pulled by frightened cats  ::)
Title: Re: Operational Inefficiency
Post by: Pirate on January 23, 2012, 07:02:44 PM
All the speeding cameras here have been disabled .......for a few years..... :thumbsup:

Only the mobile hand held jobbers to look out for .......but they normally are in the same place all the time........also a big plus here is that other drivers ALL flash to warn you of any police .... :thumbsup:

They've still caught me four times...  redface:

How............12 years driving here not one speeding fine.............(and yes my car can go that fast )

 rubschin:...What about drink driving...
Title: Re: Operational Inefficiency
Post by: Barman on January 23, 2012, 07:04:44 PM
All the speeding cameras here have been disabled .......for a few years..... :thumbsup:

Only the mobile hand held jobbers to look out for .......but they normally are in the same place all the time........also a big plus here is that other drivers ALL flash to warn you of any police .... :thumbsup:

They've still caught me four times...  redface:

How............12 years driving here not one speeding fine.............(and yes my car can go that fast )

137 on the motorway... then three times in a 50KPH limit....  evil:

A friendly policeman made one of them disappear....  whistle:
Title: Re: Operational Inefficiency
Post by: apc2010 on January 23, 2012, 07:07:01 PM
All the speeding cameras here have been disabled .......for a few years..... :thumbsup:

Only the mobile hand held jobbers to look out for .......but they normally are in the same place all the time........also a big plus here is that other drivers ALL flash to warn you of any police .... :thumbsup:

They've still caught me four times...  redface:

How............12 years driving here not one speeding fine.............(and yes my car can go that fast )

 rubschin:...What about drink driving...

Ah..........still pending....... redface:
Title: Re: Operational Inefficiency
Post by: bodiam on January 24, 2012, 08:28:55 AM
All the speeding cameras here have been disabled .......for a few years..... :thumbsup:

Only the mobile hand held jobbers to look out for .......but they normally are in the same place all the time........also a big plus here is that other drivers ALL flash to warn you of any police .... :thumbsup:
yes, one caught me after 30 years. Snidy bastard was hiding behind a car and leapt out to stop me. If I had had my wits about me I would have run him down, he was one obnoxious little turd, who loved the power he had. Mentioning to him that while he was having fun nicking motorists who were travelling at 5mph over the speed limit to make himself feel good, real criminals were getting away with murder, did not go down too well  ;D He was a typical cop, and threatened to arrest me  scared2: twat!!
Title: Re: Operational Inefficiency
Post by: Pirate on January 24, 2012, 08:36:33 AM
I remember you...
Title: Re: Operational Inefficiency
Post by: Barman on January 24, 2012, 08:39:49 AM
I remember you...

 lol: lol: lol:
Title: Re: Operational Inefficiency
Post by: Snoopy on January 24, 2012, 08:55:50 AM
As Duty Manager I was sat in the Control Room drinking coffee one night when a call came through from the Police (Hertfordshire Force) to ask us to send a patrol with the keys to a warehouse in Stevenage. They "had reason to believe" that intruders were in the warehouse and had half a dozen cops "surrounding" it.
Normally the controller would have radioed the nearest patrol to RTB and collect the keys (we had a number of clients for whom we held the keys and offered a first response to) however since I was there I grabbed the keys from the safe and taking a marked patrol car raced off up the A1M.
As I entered Stevenage I was still going for it but in a 40 mph area. It was 3 in the morning and not a soul on the roads. It was also a dual carriageway but I admit that it was restricted. Got pulled by a Police Patrol Car and despite my explanation was issued a ticket. As the cop slowly wrote out the ticket and took his opportunity to lecture me my radio was squawking. Our controller was telling me that the Police had been back on to ask why it was taking so long to get to the warehouse. The cop who had pulled me heard all this but still went through all his procedures, blow in the bag, no licence, well you'll have to produce one at a police station of your choice, here's another form. Where's your insurance, oh company car (like I'd choose to drive a car emblazoned with "Security"  on all doors, bonnet and rear end) well you'll need to get their insurance certificate and take that to a police station of your choice, here's another form etc etc etc.
After I finally got away from him I reached the warehouse and sure enough a couple of local lads were nicked and charged.
I complained bitterly to the local sergeant who replied that once a ticket had been issued he could not do anything about it but recommended that I take it to court rather than pay it.  As the sergeant said at the time "Sorry mate but there's one in every nick ~ your problem was that you found him"
Title: Re: Operational Inefficiency
Post by: Barman on January 24, 2012, 09:08:28 AM
On topic after sixteen replies...  rubschin:
Title: Re: Operational Inefficiency
Post by: Snoopy on January 24, 2012, 09:23:02 AM
I do my best   angel1
Title: Re: Operational Inefficiency
Post by: Barman on January 24, 2012, 09:32:09 AM
I do my best   angel1

Good man dog!  :thumbsup:

Have a Tesco Value 'Bonio'....  whistle:
Title: Re: Operational Inefficiency
Post by: Snoopy on January 24, 2012, 09:37:46 AM
Ta!
Title: Re: Operational Inefficiency
Post by: Miss Creant Commander of the picklement and baking BAb(Hons) on January 24, 2012, 10:08:01 AM
I remember you...

It's so good to hear that you are having a good alzheimer's day, they are so few and far between. noooo:


Title: Re: Operational Inefficiency
Post by: bodiam on January 24, 2012, 01:46:56 PM
As Duty Manager I was sat in the Control Room drinking coffee one night when a call came through from the Police (Hertfordshire Force) to ask us to send a patrol with the keys to a warehouse in Stevenage. They "had reason to believe" that intruders were in the warehouse and had half a dozen cops "surrounding" it.
Normally the controller would have radioed the nearest patrol to RTB and collect the keys (we had a number of clients for whom we held the keys and offered a first response to) however since I was there I grabbed the keys from the safe and taking a marked patrol car raced off up the A1M.
As I entered Stevenage I was still going for it but in a 40 mph area. It was 3 in the morning and not a soul on the roads. It was also a dual carriageway but I admit that it was restricted. Got pulled by a Police Patrol Car and despite my explanation was issued a ticket. As the cop slowly wrote out the ticket and took his opportunity to lecture me my radio was squawking. Our controller was telling me that the Police had been back on to ask why it was taking so long to get to the warehouse. The cop who had pulled me heard all this but still went through all his procedures, blow in the bag, no licence, well you'll have to produce one at a police station of your choice, here's another form. Where's your insurance, oh company car (like I'd choose to drive a car emblazoned with "Security"  on all doors, bonnet and rear end) well you'll need to get their insurance certificate and take that to a police station of your choice, here's another form etc etc etc.
After I finally got away from him I reached the warehouse and sure enough a couple of local lads were nicked and charged.
I complained bitterly to the local sergeant who replied that once a ticket had been issued he could not do anything about it but recommended that I take it to court rather than pay it.  As the sergeant said at the time "Sorry mate but there's one in every nick ~ your problem was that you found him"
As I said earlier...Twats, the lot of 'em. I was hit once by an illegal immigrant- ''old bills'' wording, not mine. He had no insurance, no tax, car not registered in his name, despite the fact he had owned it for over 2 years, speeding, no seatbelt and no lights even though it was early evening in October. I had to produce, he was let go. When I bought it up with the desk sargeant he said '' yeah mate, it 'appens all the time. We know they are illegal, but we 'ave to bail 'em, and then they bugger off. Its just not worth the paperwork''  You couldn't make it up. Wankah: Wankah: Jail:
Title: Re: Operational Inefficiency
Post by: Darwins Selection on January 24, 2012, 02:58:17 PM
As Duty Manager I was sat in the Control Room drinking coffee one night when a call came through from the Police (Hertfordshire Force) to ask us to send a patrol with the keys to a warehouse in Stevenage. They "had reason to believe" that intruders were in the warehouse and had half a dozen cops "surrounding" it.
Normally the controller would have radioed the nearest patrol to RTB and collect the keys (we had a number of clients for whom we held the keys and offered a first response to) however since I was there I grabbed the keys from the safe and taking a marked patrol car raced off up the A1M.
As I entered Stevenage I was still going for it but in a 40 mph area. It was 3 in the morning and not a soul on the roads. It was also a dual carriageway but I admit that it was restricted. Got pulled by a Police Patrol Car and despite my explanation was issued a ticket. As the cop slowly wrote out the ticket and took his opportunity to lecture me my radio was squawking. Our controller was telling me that the Police had been back on to ask why it was taking so long to get to the warehouse. The cop who had pulled me heard all this but still went through all his procedures, blow in the bag, no licence, well you'll have to produce one at a police station of your choice, here's another form. Where's your insurance, oh company car (like I'd choose to drive a car emblazoned with "Security"  on all doors, bonnet and rear end) well you'll need to get their insurance certificate and take that to a police station of your choice, here's another form etc etc etc.
After I finally got away from him I reached the warehouse and sure enough a couple of local lads were nicked and charged.
I complained bitterly to the local sergeant who replied that once a ticket had been issued he could not do anything about it but recommended that I take it to court rather than pay it.  As the sergeant said at the time "Sorry mate but there's one in every nick ~ your problem was that you found him"
As I said earlier...Twats, the lot of 'em. I was hit once by an illegal immigrant- ''old bills'' wording, not mine. He had no insurance, no tax, car not registered in his name, despite the fact he had owned it for over 2 years, speeding, no seatbelt and no lights even though it was early evening in October. I had to produce, he was let go. When I bought it up with the desk sargeant he said '' yeah mate, it 'appens all the time. We know they are illegal, but we 'ave to bail 'em, and then they bugger off. Its just not worth the paperwork''  You couldn't make it up. Wankah: Wankah: Jail:


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Title: Re: Operational Inefficiency
Post by: Nick on January 24, 2012, 03:12:58 PM
With apologies to Pirate, I was brought up to trust the plod. All my experience in the last 35 years has taught me to do so no longer. They have been politicised, forced into daft targets and have developed an arrogance that I find unhelpful. I avoid them nowadays, which is a shame.
Title: Re: Operational Inefficiency
Post by: Barman on January 24, 2012, 03:21:26 PM
As Duty Manager I was sat in the Control Room drinking coffee one night when a call came through from the Police (Hertfordshire Force) to ask us to send a patrol with the keys to a warehouse in Stevenage. They "had reason to believe" that intruders were in the warehouse and had half a dozen cops "surrounding" it.
Normally the controller would have radioed the nearest patrol to RTB and collect the keys (we had a number of clients for whom we held the keys and offered a first response to) however since I was there I grabbed the keys from the safe and taking a marked patrol car raced off up the A1M.
As I entered Stevenage I was still going for it but in a 40 mph area. It was 3 in the morning and not a soul on the roads. It was also a dual carriageway but I admit that it was restricted. Got pulled by a Police Patrol Car and despite my explanation was issued a ticket. As the cop slowly wrote out the ticket and took his opportunity to lecture me my radio was squawking. Our controller was telling me that the Police had been back on to ask why it was taking so long to get to the warehouse. The cop who had pulled me heard all this but still went through all his procedures, blow in the bag, no licence, well you'll have to produce one at a police station of your choice, here's another form. Where's your insurance, oh company car (like I'd choose to drive a car emblazoned with "Security"  on all doors, bonnet and rear end) well you'll need to get their insurance certificate and take that to a police station of your choice, here's another form etc etc etc.
After I finally got away from him I reached the warehouse and sure enough a couple of local lads were nicked and charged.
I complained bitterly to the local sergeant who replied that once a ticket had been issued he could not do anything about it but recommended that I take it to court rather than pay it.  As the sergeant said at the time "Sorry mate but there's one in every nick ~ your problem was that you found him"
As I said earlier...Twats, the lot of 'em. I was hit once by an illegal immigrant- ''old bills'' wording, not mine. He had no insurance, no tax, car not registered in his name, despite the fact he had owned it for over 2 years, speeding, no seatbelt and no lights even though it was early evening in October. I had to produce, he was let go. When I bought it up with the desk sargeant he said '' yeah mate, it 'appens all the time. We know they are illegal, but we 'ave to bail 'em, and then they bugger off. Its just not worth the paperwork''  You couldn't make it up. Wankah: Wankah: Jail:


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 lol: lol: lol:

The police car is for TMR....  lol:
Title: Re: Operational Inefficiency
Post by: bodiam on January 24, 2012, 06:55:09 PM
With apologies to Pirate, I was brought up to trust the plod. All my experience in the last 35 years has taught me to do so no longer. They have been politicised, forced into daft targets and have developed an arrogance that I find unhelpful. I avoid them nowadays, which is a shame.

I would not trust old bill as far as I could throw them. Arrogant, power crazy, always after the easy nick, targets or not. http://youtu.be/OEoJQpkUNRc (http://youtu.be/OEoJQpkUNRc)     Not only America !!

Title: Re: Operational Inefficiency
Post by: bodiam on January 25, 2012, 05:04:38 AM
this thread has gone rather quiet......too near the truth methinks Shrugs:
Title: Re: Operational Inefficiency
Post by: Miss Creant Commander of the picklement and baking BAb(Hons) on January 25, 2012, 07:25:30 AM
Nah, it's just that we have all gone back to sleep.
Title: Re: Operational Inefficiency
Post by: Darwins Selection on January 25, 2012, 10:43:54 AM
Nah, it's just that we have all gone back to sleep.
Those who have nicked all the duvet may have.  evil:
Title: Re: Operational Inefficiency
Post by: bodiam on January 25, 2012, 10:55:12 AM
Nah, it's just that we have all gone back to sleep.
Those who have nicked all the duvet may have.  evil:
well its no use calling plod, he is busy nicking a motorist  lol: