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Title: The BIG Strike (or how to fiddle the figures)
Post by: Snoopy on November 30, 2011, 09:07:12 AM
Soooooooo! The medja are supporting the TUC claims that 2 million people will be on strike today. They also tell us that this is the BIGGEST strike since ..... well ...... the last biggest strike. Comparisons to the "General Strike" are rife.

Let's just look at this shall we?
The General Strike was a short lived and, as it turned out, generally meaningless little interlude that didn't actually change very much.

But today's BIGGEST ever etc .... well that needs some attention too. Woodstock works at a local college but she cannot attend today because the college is locked as the caretaker is on strike. Since he is also the caretaker of the school next door that too is locked. All staff, unable to get into their place of work, are therefore deemed to be "On Strike". One person has actually withdrawn his labour for the day but 150 people are said to be on strike. Banghead


Title: Re: The BIG Strike (or how to fiddle the figures)
Post by: Miss Demeanour on November 30, 2011, 09:08:28 AM
I am in work ....but at least three quarters of  the team are not
Title: Re: The BIG Strike (or how to fiddle the figures)
Post by: Snoopy on November 30, 2011, 09:13:11 AM
At least you could get in ..... many, as I demonstrate above, cannot ........ even when they want to.
Title: Re: The BIG Strike (or how to fiddle the figures)
Post by: GROWLER on November 30, 2011, 09:39:45 AM
Well worn cliche, but they should all be glad and happy that they've at least got a job (for now)

It's shit for everyone now apart from those bastard millionaires that are dictating to us and that got us into this mess in the first place, so share the bloody pain like the rest of us poor sods and those less fortunate I say.
I DO NOT support their actions today, the only upside so far being that the bone idle binmen didn't wake me up with their loud chitter chatter, crashing and banging as much as they possibly can as is the norm. at 07:00 on a Wednesday morning. cussing:
Title: Re: The BIG Strike (or how to fiddle the figures)
Post by: Tipsy Gipsy on November 30, 2011, 12:46:47 PM
I refuse to join in with anyone. 
Title: Re: The BIG Strike (or how to fiddle the figures)
Post by: Snoopy on November 30, 2011, 12:53:10 PM
My point being that even if you have no wish to join in you can be prevented from working and will therefore be included in the numbers claimed to be "On Strike".
Title: Re: The BIG Strike (or how to fiddle the figures)
Post by: Snoopy on November 30, 2011, 01:08:41 PM
Interesting that reports are coming in that major shopping centres are saying they are unexpectedly busy today.
Seems like the "strikers" are taking the chance for a day's Christmas Shopping.
Title: Re: The BIG Strike (or how to fiddle the figures)
Post by: GROWLER on November 30, 2011, 01:09:44 PM
I refuse to join in with anyone.

Me too.

No change there then. whistle:

Just been listening to some of these 'public servants' that are on up to 40k p.a., eeek:  whinging and whining about having their rights eroded that WE private sector idiots are helping to fund for them.....on the JV show. eeek:
GREEDY BASTARDS. MORE MORE MORE, ME ME ME ALL THE FUCKIN' TIME! Banghead Angry9:

Anyone got a spare radio I could borrow for now as this one of mine is now  rubschin: ....faulty, as is my right hand steel toe capped boot. Explode:
Title: Re: The BIG Strike (or how to fiddle the figures)
Post by: Snoopy on November 30, 2011, 01:33:30 PM
Who are these uninformed harridans screeching about rights and "Government ministers who won't engage in sensible dialogue" etc.
They don't know what the government have said in negotiation ~ They only know what their union leaders are willing to tell them and then they go out and spout absolute shite at any convenient camera.

Remove the Fecking Media and they'd all go back to work.


So far we have had teachers on the news complaining about having to work longer and get less in their pensions.... No they fecking won't ~ Just look at them .....  they'll all be well retired by the time any of these so called cuts take effect.  cussing:

And why are they all fat and spouting their nonsense in regional accents so thick they are almost unintelligible?
Title: Re: The BIG Strike (or how to fiddle the figures)
Post by: Uncle Mort on November 30, 2011, 02:10:19 PM
I have refrained from watching any news. Saves me getting  cussing: or  Banghead. Almost had an argument with my brother who works at a school and is on strike today. We agreed to differ.
Title: Re: The BIG Strike (or how to fiddle the figures)
Post by: Pastis on November 30, 2011, 02:58:18 PM
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Well, I travelled through London to the Telegraph on public transport without a hitch. At home, this is my usual day to have my recycle bins collected and my local council duly collected them. Or rather, the company (employing the usual complement of East European university graduates) which is contracted to perform that function by my local council, collected them. Three of my four grandchildren are attending school as normal. At the airports where twelve hour delays were being darkly predicted, passengers are waltzing through border control more easily than is normally the case. (One bemused traveller apparently said, "Maybe they could go on strike more often.")

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/janetdaley/100120819/strikes-aint-what-they-used-to-be/ (http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/janetdaley/100120819/strikes-aint-what-they-used-to-be/)

 whistle:
Title: Re: The BIG Strike (or how to fiddle the figures)
Post by: Barman on November 30, 2011, 03:03:22 PM
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Well, I travelled through London to the Telegraph on public transport without a hitch. At home, this is my usual day to have my recycle bins collected and my local council duly collected them. Or rather, the company (employing the usual complement of East European university graduates) which is contracted to perform that function by my local council, collected them. Three of my four grandchildren are attending school as normal. At the airports where twelve hour delays were being darkly predicted, passengers are waltzing through border control more easily than is normally the case. (One bemused traveller apparently said, "Maybe they could go on strike more often.")

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/janetdaley/100120819/strikes-aint-what-they-used-to-be/ (http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/janetdaley/100120819/strikes-aint-what-they-used-to-be/)

 whistle:

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And if you want to know why this action is so feeble, it is only necessary to look at what is being said on its behalf. At Birmingham Women's Hospital, theatre nurse and Unison president, Eleanor Smith has offered a classic self-defeating defence of her strike action. "I came into the public sector not for great wages…" she said. Now what would you expect to follow that opening: "…but to serve the community", or "…to provide care that is free at the point of use"?

No, what Ms Smith said was that she did not enter the public sector for great wages "…but for a pension." And she went on, "Now this pension is going to be taken away – not totally, but considerably reduced. I get the impression the Government doesn't like the public sector." So her pension is not going to be taken away – just reduced. But still not reduced nearly so much as those of the unfortunates who work in the private sector. And this reduction is being forced on her, she believes. simply because the Government has, for some irrational reason, a personal dislike of people who work in the public services. Nothing to do with national debt, or the need to curb government spending – just inexplicable prejudice against public sector employees. If this is what constitutes justification for the union action, it is scarcely surprising that it is falling flat.

Excellent!  eveilgrin:

Ugly mind....  noooo:
Title: Re: The BIG Strike (or how to fiddle the figures)
Post by: The Moan Ranger on December 01, 2011, 06:00:41 AM
Good old Jezza!

"The BBC has apologised after Jeremy Clarkson said he would like to see striking public sector workers "shot".

The Top Gear presenter was speaking on the BBC's The One Show on the day of widespread public sector strikes.

He said: "I'd have them all shot. I would take them outside and execute them in front of their families."
Title: Re: The BIG Strike (or how to fiddle the figures)
Post by: Barman on December 01, 2011, 06:25:21 AM
Good old Jezza!

"The BBC has apologised after Jeremy Clarkson said he would like to see striking public sector workers "shot".

The Top Gear presenter was speaking on the BBC's The One Show on the day of widespread public sector strikes.

He said: "I'd have them all shot. I would take them outside and execute them in front of their families."

Excellent!  Sinister:

http://youtu.be/NuuDnqSPnhA (http://youtu.be/NuuDnqSPnhA)
Title: Re: The BIG Strike (or how to fiddle the figures)
Post by: Nick on December 01, 2011, 07:06:14 AM
ANd since when has the BBC been a private sector organisation?
Title: Re: The BIG Strike (or how to fiddle the figures)
Post by: bodiam on December 01, 2011, 07:29:44 AM
As I said on another thread  whistle: at another time noooo: I agree with Clarkson :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The BIG Strike (or how to fiddle the figures)
Post by: GROWLER on December 01, 2011, 08:58:32 AM
As I said on another thread  whistle: at another time noooo: I agree with Clarkson :thumbsup:
Probably about 85% of the population do too, me included suprisingly enough, in fact I'd go one further and sack them all first, leave them all to live on £50 per week benefits for 5 years, then bloody well shoot them, publicly and burn their privately reg. plated cars with their bodies inside them. Angry9:

Why have the beeb apologised anyway?
Some mealey mouthed dribbling lentil sucking social 'worker' complained I suppose? ::)
Title: Re: The BIG Strike (or how to fiddle the figures)
Post by: The Moan Ranger on December 01, 2011, 04:11:23 PM
For. Fucks. Sake.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15977813 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15977813)

 cussing: cussing: cussing:
Title: Re: The BIG Strike (or how to fiddle the figures)
Post by: Barman on December 01, 2011, 04:18:04 PM
For. Fucks. Sake.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15977813 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15977813)

 cussing: cussing: cussing:

The country is completely fucked....  noooo:
Title: Re: The BIG Strike (or how to fiddle the figures)
Post by: Snoopy on December 01, 2011, 04:29:27 PM
Perhaps we should have a room dedicated to Union Leaders .... there is space behind the Juke Box ....
We could call it "Up Yer Own Arse Corner"
Title: Re: The BIG Strike (or how to fiddle the figures)
Post by: Pastis on December 01, 2011, 04:42:18 PM
We'd need more space than that  ;)

Can I nominate Bob Crow?   cussing:
Title: Re: The BIG Strike (or how to fiddle the figures)
Post by: Nick on December 01, 2011, 04:43:05 PM
http://order-order.com/2011/08/10/dave-prentis-is-a-tax-hypocrite/ (http://order-order.com/2011/08/10/dave-prentis-is-a-tax-hypocrite/)
Title: Re: The BIG Strike (or how to fiddle the figures)
Post by: Pastis on December 01, 2011, 05:14:07 PM
Currently there seem to be about 4,000 complaints regarding Clarkson's typical joking style of commentary. "They should be shot!"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/8928447/Jeremy-Clarkson-apologises-as-execution-rant-sparks-4700-complaints-to-BBC.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/8928447/Jeremy-Clarkson-apologises-as-execution-rant-sparks-4700-complaints-to-BBC.html)

Currently, the UN estimate that the Syrian Government have put to death about 4,000 protestors. "They have been shot!"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/8928634/UN-Syria-civilian-death-toll-much-more-than-4000.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/8928634/UN-Syria-civilian-death-toll-much-more-than-4000.html)

FFS why can't the population in this country get a grip on reality?   noooo:
Title: Re: The BIG Strike (or how to fiddle the figures)
Post by: Barman on December 01, 2011, 05:22:32 PM
Currently there seem to be about 4,000 complaints regarding Clarkson's typical joking style of commentary. "They should be shot!"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/8928447/Jeremy-Clarkson-apologises-as-execution-rant-sparks-4700-complaints-to-BBC.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/8928447/Jeremy-Clarkson-apologises-as-execution-rant-sparks-4700-complaints-to-BBC.html)

Currently, the UN estimate that the Syrian Government have put to death about 4,000 protestors. "They have been shot!"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/8928634/UN-Syria-civilian-death-toll-much-more-than-4000.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/8928634/UN-Syria-civilian-death-toll-much-more-than-4000.html)

FFS why can't the population in this country get a grip on reality?   noooo:

Oh Pasty, haven't you thought about the children...?

Quote from: Dave Prentis
The One Show is broadcast at a time when children are watching - they could have been scared and upset by his aggressive statements. An apology is not enough - we are calling on the BBC to sack Jeremy Clarkson immediately. Such disgusting statements have no place on our TV screens.

 noooo:
Title: Re: The BIG Strike (or how to fiddle the figures)
Post by: Snoopy on December 01, 2011, 05:28:27 PM
Currently there seem to be about 4,000 complaints regarding Clarkson's typical joking style of commentary. "They should be shot!"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/8928447/Jeremy-Clarkson-apologises-as-execution-rant-sparks-4700-complaints-to-BBC.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/8928447/Jeremy-Clarkson-apologises-as-execution-rant-sparks-4700-complaints-to-BBC.html)

Currently, the UN estimate that the Syrian Government have put to death about 4,000 protestors. "They have been shot!"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/8928634/UN-Syria-civilian-death-toll-much-more-than-4000.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/8928634/UN-Syria-civilian-death-toll-much-more-than-4000.html)

FFS why can't the population in this country get a grip on reality?   noooo:

Oh Pasty, haven't you thought about the children...?

Quote from: Dave Prentis
The One Show is broadcast at a time when children are watching - they could have been scared and upset by his aggressive statements. An apology is not enough - we are calling on the BBC to sack Jeremy Clarkson immediately. Such disgusting statements have no place on our TV screens.

 noooo:

That'll be the same Dave Prentis whose idea of negotiation is to throw a tantrum and withdraw all his members from work ... leaving the aforementioned kiddies to fend for themselves 'cos the schools are closed.
Title: Re: The BIG Strike (or how to fiddle the figures)
Post by: Barman on December 01, 2011, 05:34:47 PM
Currently there seem to be about 4,000 complaints regarding Clarkson's typical joking style of commentary. "They should be shot!"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/8928447/Jeremy-Clarkson-apologises-as-execution-rant-sparks-4700-complaints-to-BBC.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/8928447/Jeremy-Clarkson-apologises-as-execution-rant-sparks-4700-complaints-to-BBC.html)

Currently, the UN estimate that the Syrian Government have put to death about 4,000 protestors. "They have been shot!"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/8928634/UN-Syria-civilian-death-toll-much-more-than-4000.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/8928634/UN-Syria-civilian-death-toll-much-more-than-4000.html)

FFS why can't the population in this country get a grip on reality?   noooo:

Oh Pasty, haven't you thought about the children...?

Quote from: Dave Prentis
The One Show is broadcast at a time when children are watching - they could have been scared and upset by his aggressive statements. An apology is not enough - we are calling on the BBC to sack Jeremy Clarkson immediately. Such disgusting statements have no place on our TV screens.

 noooo:

That'll be the same Dave Prentis whose idea of negotiation is to throw a tantrum and withdraw all his members from work ... leaving the aforementioned kiddies to fend for themselves 'cos the schools are closed.

The very same!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The BIG Strike (or how to fiddle the figures)
Post by: Pastis on December 01, 2011, 05:44:11 PM

The very same!  :thumbsup:

I don't expect the same number of indignant, self righteous complaints ... not being a hoogely paid Media celebrity but what the hell...

Keeeel Heeem!  evil:
Title: Re: The BIG Strike (or how to fiddle the figures)
Post by: Barman on December 01, 2011, 05:45:44 PM

The very same!  :thumbsup:

I don't expect the same number of indignant, self righteous complaints ... not being a hoogely paid Media celebrity but what the hell...

Keeeel Heeem!  evil:

I'd pull the lever....  whistle:
Title: Re: The BIG Strike (or how to fiddle the figures)
Post by: GROWLER on December 01, 2011, 05:49:51 PM
For. Fucks. Sake.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15977813 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15977813)

 cussing: cussing: cussing:

4,500 against, 14,0000,500 for.

Majority rules and dictates, so SHOOT the bastards I say! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The BIG Strike (or how to fiddle the figures)
Post by: apc2010 on December 01, 2011, 05:56:36 PM
Let them sack him ............then make him an MP or major of London......... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The BIG Strike (or how to fiddle the figures)
Post by: GROWLER on December 01, 2011, 06:00:51 PM
Let them sack him ............then make him an MP or major of London......... :thumbsup:

PM more like it.
Absolutely luv the guy for telling it how it is and how the majority feel, joking or not.

We are nearly all thouroughly and totally utterly PISSED RIGHT OFF! Banghead

I'm almost starting to warm towards the ranting woman on the tram now too tbh.

This isn't a racist issue anymore, it's about protecting and defending our own society for today, tomorrow and the bloody future, for ourselves, our kids and granchildren.

I'm sincerely glad that I won't be around in 50 years from now to see just how utterly dreadful this already fucked country of ours is going to be. eeek: noooo:
Title: Re: The BIG Strike (or how to fiddle the figures)
Post by: Barman on December 01, 2011, 06:01:40 PM
Let them sack him ............then make him an MP or major of London......... :thumbsup:

PM!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The BIG Strike (or how to fiddle the figures)
Post by: apc2010 on December 01, 2011, 06:02:39 PM
Being a cynic.............has he got a book out this Xmas ............ rubschin:
Title: Re: The BIG Strike (or how to fiddle the figures)
Post by: GROWLER on December 01, 2011, 06:05:32 PM
Being a cynic.............has he got a book out this Xmas ............ rubschin:

Yes, and probably a fantastic DVD of blowing 'shite' up too. cloud9:
Title: Re: The BIG Strike (or how to fiddle the figures)
Post by: apc2010 on December 01, 2011, 06:11:04 PM
Being a cynic.............has he got a book out this Xmas ............ rubschin:

Yes, and probably a fantastic DVD of blowing 'shite' up too. cloud9:

No amazon link from BM......... eeek:
Title: Re: The BIG Strike (or how to fiddle the figures)
Post by: Barman on December 01, 2011, 06:18:41 PM
Being a cynic.............has he got a book out this Xmas ............ rubschin:

Well I'm buggered! (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Round-Bend-Jeremy-Clarkson/dp/0718158407/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1322763464&sr=8-1)  eeek:
Title: Re: The BIG Strike (or how to fiddle the figures)
Post by: GROWLER on December 01, 2011, 06:22:08 PM
Being a cynic.............has he got a book out this Xmas ............ rubschin:

Well I'm buggered! (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Round-Bend-Jeremy-Clarkson/dp/0718158407/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1322763464&sr=8-1)  eeek:

DVD? rubschin:
Title: Re: The BIG Strike (or how to fiddle the figures)
Post by: Barman on December 01, 2011, 07:20:44 PM
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As far as I am aware, the outraged are relying on a version of the story in which Clarkson’s words were taken badly out of context. What he actually seems to have said was that he thought that the strike had been brilliant due to massive reductions in traffic which had made driving much easier. He then stated that this being the BBC he had to provide a balanced view so then stated that the strikers should be dragged out of their houses and shot in front of their families to make that point. If this is indeed the case then the coverage of this on BBC Radio 2 has been nothing short of disgraceful as they only played the second half of the clip.

I still think that he is a juvenile pillock but also think that everyone should be allowed to speak their mind and then be prepared to be called out if they talk like an idiot.

From here. (http://www.longrider.co.uk/blog/2011/12/01/oh-do-grow-up/)
Title: Re: The BIG Strike (or how to fiddle the figures)
Post by: Uncle Mort on December 02, 2011, 07:45:36 AM
Just watched both bits on BBC Breakfast. Totally a contextual thing. The joke was about having to be "balanced". They've got some po-faced union twat on at the moment who's totally missed the point.
Title: Re: The BIG Strike (or how to fiddle the figures)
Post by: GROWLER on December 02, 2011, 08:33:51 AM
Just watched both bits on BBC Breakfast. Totally a contextual thing. The joke was about having to be "balanced". They've got some po-faced union twat on at the moment who's totally missed the point.

Don't they always?

P'raps he should be taken outside and shot in front of his members instead then, just to show no hard feelings like. :thumbsup: