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Title: Family Tree
Post by: Snoopy on October 30, 2011, 11:24:16 AM
I have finally reached about as far back as I am likely to get.
I have just discovered that an ancestor owned a large house in East Meon. It seems he was liable for "Hearth Tax" on 4 hearths and had 100 acres of land (also taxable)

I wonder if I claim my inheritance what the bloody Inland Revenue will want in terms of interest.  eeek:

Oh and to aid the calculation he lived there in 1470.
Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: Barman on October 30, 2011, 11:45:53 AM
Lend us a trillion €uros!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: Snoopy on October 30, 2011, 11:56:12 AM
Piss orf you Greek B@st@rd.  evil:

Of course I paraphrase George Osborne but you get my drift.
Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: Barman on October 30, 2011, 12:10:40 PM
 evil:
Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: Just One More on October 30, 2011, 12:18:10 PM
I have finally reached about as far back as I am likely to get.
I have just discovered that an ancestor owned a large house in East Meon. It seems he was liable for "Hearth Tax" on 4 hearths and had 100 acres of land (also taxable)

I wonder if I claim my inheritance what the bloody Inland Revenue will want in terms of interest.  eeek:

Oh and to aid the calculation he lived there in 1470.

A lovely part of the County Snoopy, a few vineyards in the valley these days
Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: Darwins Selection on October 30, 2011, 12:22:29 PM
Oh and to aid the calculation he lived there in 1470.
10,000,000th probably  ;)
Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: Barman on October 30, 2011, 12:24:50 PM
Oh and to aid the calculation he lived there in 1470.
10,000,000th probably  ;)

 lol: lol: lol:
Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: Snoopy on November 02, 2011, 05:39:56 PM
By a stroke of good luck I have found another relly I didn't know about and they have got back even further. Info has now been exchanged (I had stuff they were looking for too) and I have now got a line back to ....................... 1160!!!!  eeek:


The new info includes the Lieutenant of a castle in Calais and several "Sirs" and "Ladys"


But it's OK you peasants can still call me Snoopy  lol:
Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: Nick on November 02, 2011, 05:43:23 PM
I can trace my origins back to apes and some wumman in the African Rift Valley angel1
Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: Snoopy on November 02, 2011, 05:45:43 PM
As can we all .... but do you have names, places and dates?
Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: Nick on November 02, 2011, 05:49:10 PM
Third tree from the left, 1 million years BC angel1
Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: Pastis on November 02, 2011, 05:56:55 PM
Third tree from the left, 1 million years BC angel1

Was that the one behind Raquel Welch displaying her assets? 
Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: Nick on November 02, 2011, 06:00:20 PM
My great (x50000) grandpa would know. Let's have a seance
Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: Snoopy on November 02, 2011, 06:11:19 PM
And why have you morphed into Eric Blair?
Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: Darwins Selection on November 02, 2011, 06:19:08 PM
And why have you morphed into Eric Blair?

I thought it was Lord Haw Haw
Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: Snoopy on November 02, 2011, 06:23:23 PM
And why have you morphed into Eric Blair?

I thought it was Lord Haw Haw

Nope it is deffo Eric Blair who preferred to be known as George Orwell for reasons that I know not ..... unless he foresaw that the name of Blair would, one day, be for evermore associated with the words That C*nt
Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: Nick on November 02, 2011, 06:29:20 PM
A gift from Pastis cloud9:
Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: Barman on November 02, 2011, 06:34:20 PM
By a stroke of good luck I have found another relly I didn't know about and they have got back even further. Info has now been exchanged (I had stuff they were looking for too) and I have now got a line back to ....................... 1160!!!!  eeek:


The new info includes the Lieutenant of a castle in Calais and several "Sirs" and "Ladys"


But it's OK you peasants can still call me Snoopy  lol:

Oh posh!

Most of us would say twelve o'clock....  ::)
Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: Snoopy on November 02, 2011, 06:35:01 PM
Tit!  ::)
Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: GROWLER on November 02, 2011, 06:35:16 PM
I can trace my origins back to apes and some wumman in the African Rift Valley angel1

Oh, and we all thought you had derived from some enourmously and vastly superior wisdom toothless race too. Silly us for believing you ey? whistle:
Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: Nick on November 02, 2011, 06:36:09 PM
On your knees. Mr Specimen
Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: Snoopy on November 06, 2011, 05:51:45 PM
I know this is boring to you all but forgive me .... I am excited by it.

Today I found no fewer than 6 ancestors who fought with Henry V at Agincourt .... from which two were knighted by the King.


Now that is the point of family history to me.


Anyone who thinks they may have had ancestors at Agincourt (on the English side) there is a fantastic bit of research done by the Universities of Southampton and Reading that lists all of the English side. They have, apparently, culled the information from the paylists maintained by the King's servants to ensure that wages were accounted for. You can search by name, rank etc.
http://www.icmacentre.ac.uk/soldier/database/search.php (http://www.icmacentre.ac.uk/soldier/database/search.php)
Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: Nick on November 06, 2011, 05:54:44 PM
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: Snoopy on November 06, 2011, 05:57:54 PM
There is a book in this .... and I have already started writing it. Prolly take me years but the beauty of it is that it will be a never ending story that my children/grandchildren etc will be able to carry on with.
Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: Miss Creant Commander of the picklement and baking BAb(Hons) on November 06, 2011, 06:33:25 PM
 :thumbsup:   Makes perfect sense to me.  Family history is fascinating IMO.
Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: Pastis on November 06, 2011, 06:48:49 PM
Nice find Snoops!   :thumbsup:    And ditto MissC  8)
Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: Miss Creant Commander of the picklement and baking BAb(Hons) on November 06, 2011, 07:10:35 PM
Members of my family were involved in this.

.http://www.tolpuddlemartyrs.org.uk/ (http://www.tolpuddlemartyrs.org.uk/)

Stirring stuff.  There is. I hear on the news tonight an encampment starting outside Sheffield cathedral. If my ancestors could do it then maybe I should. This from a 51 year old woman who has been a Tory for her lifetime. noooo:



Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: Nick on November 06, 2011, 07:28:39 PM
My pink sis and I realised today that we know nothing of the paternal line beyond our grandfather. The maternal side is a different matter.
Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: Miss Demeanour on November 06, 2011, 07:29:48 PM
 scared2:
Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: Nick on November 06, 2011, 07:31:06 PM
What is it, cousin?
Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: Miss Demeanour on November 06, 2011, 07:34:34 PM
I have wisdom teeth - we can't possibly be related  whistle:
Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: Nick on November 06, 2011, 07:35:45 PM
 drumroll:
Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: Nick on November 06, 2011, 07:48:37 PM
Great Grandpa.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johan_Peter_Emilius_Hartmann
 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johan_Peter_Emilius_Hartmann)



It seems I am also related to:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lars_von_Trier (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lars_von_Trier) eeek:
Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: Miss Demeanour on November 06, 2011, 08:03:15 PM
I have a huge folder of family tree research type stuff here that my mum and stepdad were compiling before they both died. To be honest I haven't been able to face looking at it yet.

Perhaps it's time to have a gander .
Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: Nick on November 06, 2011, 08:07:14 PM
 cloud9:

Does it mention the Normans? rubschin:
Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: Miss Demeanour on November 06, 2011, 08:09:15 PM
What bit of I haven't looked at it yet was confusing ?  rubschin:
Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: Nick on November 06, 2011, 08:24:08 PM
Fascinating site

http://gbnames.publicprofiler.org/Surnames.aspx (http://gbnames.publicprofiler.org/Surnames.aspx)
Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: Snoopy on November 06, 2011, 08:31:51 PM
Oh gawd what have I started?  scared2:


Top Tip;
There really is truth in what they say. You have to start with yourself and work back with what you know ~ then start investigating.


You'll be amazed at how many relatives you have than you never knew about and how many of them will be also seeking the family history. They will all want to swap information because we are all originals and therefore no two trees can be the same.
Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: Nick on November 06, 2011, 08:35:19 PM
Pink sis and I reckon we must have loads of paterrnal cousins we know nothing about
Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: Pirate on November 06, 2011, 09:09:59 PM
cloud9:

Does it mention the Normans? rubschin:

My dad was a Norman...
Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: Miss Demeanour on November 06, 2011, 09:16:09 PM
Captain Norman ?  rubschin:
Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: Darwins Selection on November 06, 2011, 09:22:05 PM
cloud9:

Does it mention the Normans? rubschin:

My dad was a Norman...

(https://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.passedaway.com%2Fimage.php%2FSir-Norman-Wisdom.jpg%3Fwidth%3D200%26amp%3Bimage%3D%2Fassets%2Fimages%2Fnews_images%2FSir-Norman-Wisdom.jpg&hash=7ee3aa5693a2decbaba131f10b97753124bbdd70)
Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: Nick on November 06, 2011, 09:23:20 PM
What sort of teeth did he have?  rubschin:
Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: Darwins Selection on November 06, 2011, 09:25:02 PM
What sort of teeth did he have?  rubschin:
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: Snoopy on November 08, 2011, 11:43:23 AM
Wow!

Once you get back to 1066 it all becomes easier ..... The Normans kept good records of their knights etc and can trace them back to the original Norsemen. I have got back now to 595 and a "King" of Norway.

Minor now wants to board a ferry and go to claim his throne!!  lol:

OK I admit I have had to jump from male to female line a few times .... but marriages back then were a matter of acquisition ~ either of lands or influence. I can now trace and prove a line that leads from a King of Norway born in 595 through to an agricultural labourer in Odiham born in 1860 (My mother's grandfather).

The family, on both sides, has displayed some nifty footwork changing sides twice during the Wars of the Roses, again under Henry VIII and again under Cromwell but somewhere they lost the lands and the money.  confused:

The most amazing thing, to me at least, is that since 1066 not a single one was born north of the M4 .... which I find most pleasing.  ;D
Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: tel on November 08, 2011, 11:47:46 AM
It's ok getting back to the Normans, it's getting right back to Adam & Eve that's tricky
Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: Snoopy on November 08, 2011, 11:51:49 AM
Nah ~ all that "begatting" is too much for me to tackle.


It does seem that I am distantly related to Dave Cameron, HM Queen Elizabeth II and Barack Obama (tho' who wielded the tar brush I know not)


Talk about 6 steps removed from everyone!
Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: Darwins Selection on November 08, 2011, 12:17:08 PM
The most amazing thing, to me at least, is that since 1066 not a single one was born north of the M4 .... which I find most pleasing.  ;D

I am sure that those of us who live north of the M4 share your delight.
Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: Snoopy on November 08, 2011, 01:05:21 PM
Keep Wessex pure I say!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: Nick on November 08, 2011, 01:07:05 PM
DOes that include the laydees of Portsmouth?
Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: Snoopy on November 08, 2011, 01:08:11 PM
If you can find a lady in Portsmouth I'll be pleased to ask her.  whistle:
Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: Just One More on November 08, 2011, 06:33:17 PM
Nah ~ all that "begatting" is too much for me to tackle.


It does seem that I am distantly related to Dave Cameron, HM Queen Elizabeth II and Barack Obama (tho' who wielded the tar brush I know not)


Talk about 6 steps removed from everyone!

Where did the Indians come into it  rubschin:

Origin of the Queen of England! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhJ6lA-0rBY#)
Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: Snoopy on November 09, 2011, 11:00:11 AM
What have the Romans ever done for us (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExWfh6sGyso#)


And me .... apparently  eeek:


Yep I have got back that far!!
Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: Uncle Mort on November 09, 2011, 11:11:05 AM

 rubschin:

(https://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs9.postimage.org%2F6j41w3qhn%2Fjulius_snoopy.jpg&hash=f72dfd2331165bac7474271bd0b9c586c1f24d63) (http://postimage.org/image/6j41w3qhn/)
Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: Snoopy on November 09, 2011, 12:03:23 PM
 lol: lol: lol:

'cactly!
Title: Re: Family Tree
Post by: Barman on December 06, 2011, 04:04:39 PM
Just discovered that my grandfather's ship was torpedoed (and sunk) by the same U-Boat (http://www.uboat.net/wwi/boats/index.html?boat=20) and Captain (http://www.uboat.net/wwi/men/commanders/322.html) that sank the RMS Lusitania...

(https://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fretrosmiles.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F08%2FuncalbertDM1308_468x376-468x288.jpg&hash=dcee25c2d8c1ed60642149eba5957962ac5377f6)

 rubschin: