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Title: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Pastis on October 24, 2011, 05:49:27 PM
All of a sudden and quite out of the blue the toilet cistern has decided to make scary noises on the refill cycle  rubschin: . No, it's not water hammering, it's a loud, vibrating hum (low register) that stops as soon as the water level is back up.
I've taken all the bits off the shelf, removed the top, fiddled, proggled and poked around but to no avail ...  cry:

I'm büggered if I'm going to get a plumber out at ¶˙^ø•†©ø per hour or part thereof just yet!  It's only water moving from one place to another  ~  not quantum physics  evil:

There must be a way to fix it ...  rubschin:
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Grumpmeister on October 24, 2011, 05:53:30 PM
Exorcism?  rubschin:
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Nick on October 24, 2011, 05:53:47 PM
Shoot it eveilgrin:
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Tipsy Gipsy on October 24, 2011, 06:45:40 PM
It will be the part greeny thing on the inserty thing that will have broken... and everyone on the shelves will be the wrong type.   noooo:
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Pastis on October 24, 2011, 06:51:49 PM
Thanks for the insightful advice  confused:   Why does it suddenly decide to hum in a low F# (that's a guess)?

PS GM, the garlic bulb doesn't work  evil:
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Grumpmeister on October 24, 2011, 06:58:35 PM
Garlic is for vampires you clot, you need holy water and incense  whistle:
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Nick on October 24, 2011, 07:02:33 PM
It will be the part greeny thing on the inserty thing that will have broken... and everyone on the shelves will be the wrong type.   noooo:
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Ignore her. SHe is a nutter noooo: noooo:
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Just One More on October 24, 2011, 07:04:37 PM
It will be the part greeny thing on the inserty thing that will have broken... and everyone on the shelves will be the wrong type.   noooo:
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Ignore her. SHe is a nutter noooo: noooo:

She does appear to have mastered the quote function though  point:
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Nick on October 24, 2011, 07:06:10 PM
 cussing: cussing: cussing: cussing: cussing: cussing:
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Grumpmeister on October 24, 2011, 07:06:33 PM
It will be the part greeny thing on the inserty thing that will have broken... and everyone on the shelves will be the wrong type.   noooo:
[/quote

Ignore her. SHe is a nutter noooo: noooo:

She does appear to have mastered the quote function though  point:

Unlike the pair of you  point:
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Nick on October 24, 2011, 07:08:38 PM
And you angel1
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Just One More on October 24, 2011, 07:11:16 PM
I thought it looked wrong when I previewed it, but my text was outside the quoted part  rubschin:

I blame Barman, he's gubbed it
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Grumpmeister on October 24, 2011, 07:11:47 PM
And you angel1

I didn't want to feel left out  whistle:
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Snoopy on October 24, 2011, 07:22:04 PM
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Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Darwins Selection on October 24, 2011, 08:32:55 PM
It's an airlock. Noisy pipes are always airlocks.
Drain and refill the whole system, then many more noises will come from other places
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Uncle Mort on October 24, 2011, 10:59:06 PM
Build up of water scale ~ changes the dynamics of the system ~ causes vibrations.
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Barman on October 25, 2011, 05:58:29 AM
It will be the part greeny thing on the inserty thing that will have broken... and everyone on the shelves will be the wrong type.   noooo:

Ignore her. SHe is a nutter noooo: noooo:

She does appear to have mastered the quote function though  point:

Unlike the pair of you  point:

My poor quote system....  sad24:
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Miss Demeanour on October 25, 2011, 06:11:05 AM
Should that not be " your poor quote cistern "  whistle:
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Tipsy Gipsy on October 25, 2011, 06:14:52 AM
 lol: 
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: apc2010 on October 25, 2011, 06:18:17 AM
Should that not be " your poor quote cistern "  whistle:


 drumroll:
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: bodiam on October 25, 2011, 06:27:12 AM
I had the same thing earlier in the year, It is the diaphragm in the inlet, a cheap and easy fix. I think they cost a couple of quid from B&Q (Other diy suppliers are available) To change it undo the nylon nut at the end of the ballcock, where the water runs out of the inlet pipe and into the cistern and inside will be a black rubber diaphragm. Replace that and tighten bacck up and that should stop the scary noises. scared:
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Just One More on October 25, 2011, 06:50:12 AM
Isn't that what Tipsy said  ;)

Quote
It will be the part greeny thing on the inserty thing that will have broken...
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Barman on October 25, 2011, 06:52:12 AM
Should that not be " your poor quote cistern "  whistle:

No...  ::)
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Darwins Selection on October 25, 2011, 07:51:01 AM
Should that not be " your poor quote cistern "  whistle:
lol: lol: lol:

Come on the rest of you, cisterns and bathrooms are a goldmine for cringe-making puns.

Flush, flushed, flushing, overflow. overflowing, ball cock, ball valve, diaphragm, lime, scale etc etc.

Your apathy and lack of creative urges is driving me round the bend.  noooo:
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Barman on October 25, 2011, 07:55:13 AM
Should that not be " your poor quote cistern "  whistle:
lol: lol: lol:

Come on the rest of you, cisterns and bathrooms are a goldmine for cringe-making puns.

Flush, flushed, flushing, overflow. overflowing, ball cock, ball valve, diaphragm, lime, scale etc etc.

Your apathy and lack of creative urges is driving me round the bend.  noooo:

We're all a bit flushed after our excesses last night....  noooo:
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Miss Demeanour on October 25, 2011, 07:55:53 AM
I was tempted to comment on the original post ...when our dear Pastis identified the problem immediately by saying it was " out of the bloo" .... whistle:
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Darwins Selection on October 25, 2011, 07:56:52 AM
I was tempted to comment on the original post ...when our dear Pastis identified the problem immediately by saying it was " out of the bloo" .... whistle:

That is just Ducking the issue.
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Barman on October 25, 2011, 07:59:05 AM
We need to attack this with a bit more Vim and vigour....  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Miss Demeanour on October 25, 2011, 07:59:16 AM
I was tempted to comment on the original post ...when our dear Pastis identified the problem immediately by saying it was " out of the bloo" .... whistle:

That is just Ducking the tissue.

Sorry DS - I won't Harpic on about it  redface:
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Darwins Selection on October 25, 2011, 08:06:33 AM
I was tempted to comment on the original post ...when our dear Pastis identified the problem immediately by saying it was " out of the bloo" .... whistle:

That is just Ducking the tissue.

Sorry DS - I won't Harpic on about it  redface:

That's OK. I know you bend over backwards to avoid that.
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Barman on October 25, 2011, 08:21:18 AM
I was tempted to comment on the original post ...when our dear Pastis identified the problem immediately by saying it was " out of the bloo" .... whistle:

That is just Ducking the tissue.

Sorry DS - I won't Harpic on about it  redface:

That's OK. I know you bend over backwards to avoid that.

She thinks we'll accept any old cock and ball story....  noooo:
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Miss Demeanour on October 25, 2011, 08:22:21 AM
You lot really know how to yank my chain  noooo:
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Darwins Selection on October 25, 2011, 08:24:19 AM
You lot really know how to yank my chain  noooo:

You are so vulnerable, being in the first flush of youth.
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Barman on October 25, 2011, 08:26:58 AM
You lot really know how to yank my chain  noooo:

Well, you just plunge into everything....  noooo:
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Miss Demeanour on October 25, 2011, 08:28:11 AM
You lot really know how to yank my chain  noooo:

You are so vulnerable, being in the first flush of youth.

You bowl me over  cloud9:
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Barman on October 25, 2011, 08:29:32 AM
I think we should put the lid on this...  noooo:
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Pastis on October 25, 2011, 08:45:57 AM
 Yargh:
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Darwins Selection on October 25, 2011, 09:05:13 AM
I think we should put the lid on this...  noooo:

Not yet, we are on a roll.
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Barman on October 25, 2011, 09:11:17 AM
I think we should put the lid on this...  noooo:

Not yet, we are on a roll.

But Pasty thinks we are a bit potty....  noooo:
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Darwins Selection on October 25, 2011, 09:20:26 AM
I think we should put the lid on this...  noooo:

Not yet, we are on a roll.

But Pasty thinks we are a bit potty....  noooo:

He is a bit of a stool pigeon though.
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Barman on October 25, 2011, 09:50:01 AM
I think we should put the lid on this...  noooo:

Not yet, we are on a roll.

But Pasty thinks we are a bit potty....  noooo:

He is a bit of a stool pigeon though.

And very po-faced....  noooo:
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Snoopy on October 25, 2011, 09:51:59 AM
This is just taking the piss.  razz:
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Nick on October 25, 2011, 09:53:21 AM
What is this shite?
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Barman on October 25, 2011, 09:56:06 AM
Mr. Thread? Meet Mr. Sewer....
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Miss Demeanour on October 25, 2011, 09:58:34 AM
A floater on by'er  noooo: , nose in the air type  whistle:
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Nick on October 25, 2011, 09:59:50 AM
Are we scraping the bottom yet?
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Miss Demeanour on October 25, 2011, 10:01:15 AM
Not until you have dye on  yer ear  whistle:
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Snoopy on October 25, 2011, 10:07:52 AM
We aim to please ~ will gentlemen please do likewise.
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Pastis on October 25, 2011, 10:22:21 AM
The problem remains unfixed;  I think this thread might run and run  noooo:
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Snoopy on October 25, 2011, 10:36:27 AM
Change the ball cock and valve assembly. Dirt cheap in Screwfix or B&Q and shouldn't take more than half an hour to remove old one and fit new.

http://www.screwfix.com/search.do?fh_search=ball%20valve%20toilet&cm_mmc=Google-_-Plumbing%20 (http://www.screwfix.com/search.do?fh_search=ball%20valve%20toilet&cm_mmc=Google-_-Plumbing%20)|%20Drainage,%20Sewerage%20and%20Treatment%20|%20Generic-_-Ball%20Valves%20|%20Broad-_-%20ball%20%20valve%20%20toilet&gclid=CJqJwcbRg6wCFYVP4QoddxKZJw



But as others have said it is probably air in the system. which means a drain down and refill. Best to get a plumber in to do it.
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Darwins Selection on October 25, 2011, 11:11:41 AM
The problem remains unfixed;  I think this thread might run and run  noooo:
It will soon skid to a halt.
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Nick on October 25, 2011, 11:47:05 AM
 sick2:
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Pastis on October 25, 2011, 11:48:46 AM
Change the ball cock and valve assembly. Dirt cheap in Screwfix or B&Q and shouldn't take more than half an hour to remove old one and fit new.

http://www.screwfix.com/search.do?fh_search=ball%20valve%20toilet&cm_mmc=Google-_-Plumbing%20 (http://www.screwfix.com/search.do?fh_search=ball%20valve%20toilet&cm_mmc=Google-_-Plumbing%20)|%20Drainage,%20Sewerage%20and%20Treatment%20|%20Generic-_-Ball%20Valves%20|%20Broad-_-%20ball%20%20valve%20%20toilet&gclid=CJqJwcbRg6wCFYVP4QoddxKZJw



But as others have said it is probably air in the system. which means a drain down and refill. Best to get a plumber in to do it.

Thankfully I don't have to go for the bottom entry valve; the side entry looks favourite  rubschin:
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Nick on October 25, 2011, 11:49:26 AM
Bottom entry  eeek:
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Miss Creant Commander of the picklement and baking BAb(Hons) on October 25, 2011, 11:52:11 AM
Ahh for the old bottom entry you need one of these....

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Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Pastis on October 25, 2011, 11:56:34 AM
Ahhh!  Divine intervention!  The vibrating has stopped of its own accord  eeek:

 worthy:
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Nick on October 25, 2011, 11:57:05 AM
New battery?
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Darwins Selection on October 25, 2011, 12:24:31 PM
Ahhh!  Divine intervention!  The vibrating has stopped of its own accord  eeek:

 worthy:
  rubschin:
Are your pipes connected to Turkey?
Title: Re: Vibrating cisterns
Post by: Pastis on October 25, 2011, 03:34:52 PM
Ahhh!  Divine intervention!  The vibrating has stopped of its own accord  eeek:

 worthy:
  rubschin:
Are your pipes connected to Turkey?

Not the pipes but the water might be if one were to follow a certain route:  Thames Water > English Channel > Bay of Biscay > Straits of Gib. > Western Med. > Eatern Med. > Turkey  rubschin:
Perhaps I've picked an errant Turkish vibe ...