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Title: What's the difference between a killing, assassination or murder ?
Post by: Miss Demeanour on October 24, 2011, 11:15:08 AM
Why is Gadaffi's death not being called an assassination  or murder but is simply referred to as 'the killing of' ?

I know assassination or murder refers to a 'bad act' and we consider this to be somewhat just  therefore lets not use any derogatory terms  rubschin:

But when are you important enough to be considered to have been assassinated rather than just plain ol murdered ? And do you have to be considered in a favourable light to have it classified as such rather than just being slaughtered ?
Title: Re: What's the difference between a killing, assassination or murder ?
Post by: Nick on October 24, 2011, 11:16:59 AM
 whacky115

And it's only Monday
Title: Re: What's the difference between a killing, assassination or murder ?
Post by: Snoopy on October 24, 2011, 11:22:01 AM
Why is Gadaffi's death not being called an assassination  or murder but is simply referred to as 'the killing of' ?

I know assassination or murder refers to a 'bad act' and we consider this to be somewhat just  therefore lets not use any derogatory terms  rubschin:

But when are you important enough to be considered to have been assassinated rather than just plain ol murdered ? And do you have to be considered in a favourable light to have it classified as such rather than just being slaughtered ?


I suspect because nobody except perhaps the guy who pulled the trigger actually knows what happened yet..... the rest is just speculation and guesswork.

Anywhooo ~ can you have "Murder" in a shooting war?


And does it really matter? ~ The bugger is dead and not before time.
Title: Re: What's the difference between a killing, assassination or murder ?
Post by: Snoopy on October 24, 2011, 11:23:13 AM
We could of course wander down to St Paul's and ask the "campers" ~ they seem to think they know everything.
Title: Re: What's the difference between a killing, assassination or murder ?
Post by: Miss Demeanour on October 24, 2011, 11:41:55 AM
Just wait til the caravans roll up  lol:
Title: Re: What's the difference between a killing, assassination or murder ?
Post by: Miss Demeanour on October 24, 2011, 11:44:43 AM
Why is there a need for a different mode of deading someone though  i.e assassination  ?  rubschin:

Just cos you are a likkle bit famous doesn't mean you haven't been murdered the same as anyone else surely ?

Title: Re: What's the difference between a killing, assassination or murder ?
Post by: Nick on October 24, 2011, 11:47:08 AM
Why do I find this thread so worrying  scared2:
Title: Re: What's the difference between a killing, assassination or murder ?
Post by: Snoopy on October 24, 2011, 12:03:56 PM
Assassinate ~ Noun meaning to murder someone important for religious or political reasons ...
From the Latin assassinat meaning "killed"

Murder ~ Noun meaning the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another ......
From Old English morthor, of Germanic origin; related to Dutch moord and German Mord, from an Indo-European root shared by Sanskrit mará 'death' and Latin mors; reinforced in Middle English by Old French murdre


This really should be one for Dr Nick.  whistle:
Title: Re: What's the difference between a killing, assassination or murder ?
Post by: Miss Creant Commander of the picklement and baking BAb(Hons) on October 24, 2011, 12:21:36 PM
Ahh of course, I had forgotten.

Dr Nick Have I told you about my sore back and gouty toe?  No I thought not.....

Well, only the other day I was thinking to myself how lucky I was that I hadn't put me back out, well after I had touched wood like I bent over and blow me I couldn't stand up straight, I had put my back out something bad. It made me hobble I tell you, hobble and me with my gouty toe. It wouldn't have been so bad if it wasn't for my bunions playing up (does anyone get bunions these days?) red and throbbing as they were it fair made my insides drop out....
Title: Re: What's the difference between a killing, assassination or murder ?
Post by: Miss Demeanour on October 24, 2011, 12:24:10 PM
My thighs are still tender  sad24:
Title: Re: What's the difference between a killing, assassination or murder ?
Post by: Nick on October 24, 2011, 12:26:15 PM
I could rub them for you, like  angel1
Title: Re: What's the difference between a killing, assassination or murder ?
Post by: Miss Demeanour on October 24, 2011, 12:28:44 PM
Assassinate ~ Noun meaning to murder someone important for religious or political reasons ...
From the Latin assassinat meaning "killed"

Murder ~ Noun meaning the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another ......
From Old English morthor, of Germanic origin; related to Dutch moord and German Mord, from an Indo-European root shared by Sanskrit mará 'death' and Latin mors; reinforced in Middle English by Old French murdre


This really should be one for Dr Nick.  whistle:

Then who decides if the deaded person is important enough to have been assassinated or if they have been bog standardly murdered like ?  rubschin:

Title: Re: What's the difference between a killing, assassination or murder ?
Post by: Nick on October 24, 2011, 12:31:06 PM
Uncle Mort  ::)
Title: Re: What's the difference between a killing, assassination or murder ?
Post by: Miss Creant Commander of the picklement and baking BAb(Hons) on October 24, 2011, 01:46:47 PM
Uncle Mort  ::)

And if he isn't around Snoops.

Could we start a wish list?
Title: Re: What's the difference between a killing, assassination or murder ?
Post by: Nick on October 24, 2011, 01:49:59 PM
Hazel Blears and Gordo would be mercy killings  angel1

Also Slotgob
Title: Re: What's the difference between a killing, assassination or murder ?
Post by: Darwins Selection on October 24, 2011, 04:11:39 PM
Hazel Blears and Gordo would be mercy killings  angel1

Also Slotgob

I think that, like Gadaffi, it could also be considered "Suicide by pissing off most of the population"
Title: Re: What's the difference between a killing, assassination or murder ?
Post by: Miss Demeanour on October 24, 2011, 04:31:26 PM
Ah, a righteous act of indignation then  rubschin:
Title: Re: What's the difference between a killing, assassination or murder ?
Post by: Pastis on October 24, 2011, 05:13:33 PM
Nah....

Killing:  A Danish crime series
Assassination:  A movie
Murder:  A British crime series in a rural setting

 whistle:
Title: Re: What's the difference between a killing, assassination or murder ?
Post by: bodiam on October 24, 2011, 05:23:55 PM
Gaddaffi commited suicide, he deliberately stepped in front of a bullet. violent073: shocked003 Yargh: surrender: Finger: happy001 :thumbsup: