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Re: TMR's all new "Tales from the Underworld" thread
« Reply #1650 on: October 02, 2017, 09:49:56 AM »
So by all accounts Monarch is going belly up tomorrow and I can't see Ryanair surviving their public relations cock up. Will this mean even less beer money Moanio?

Potentially. We don't handle Monarch, but I have a number of friends at Airline Services who are their handlers. Monarch is a fairly sizeable chunk of their work, so I fear there may be redundancies there unless another carrier takes over the fleet/crew pronto.

For us, the loss of the Ryanair LGW-BFS route for 4 months, coupled with the winter reduction in Thomas Cook flights, has led to our glorious leaders asking for volunteers to take 2-6 weeks unpaid holiday. If they don't get volunteers? Who knows...

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Re: TMR's all new "Tales from the Underworld" thread
« Reply #1651 on: October 02, 2017, 09:59:56 AM »
So by all accounts Monarch is going belly up tomorrow and I can't see Ryanair surviving their public relations cock up. Will this mean even less beer money Moanio?

Potentially. We don't handle Monarch, but I have a number of friends at Airline Services who are their handlers. Monarch is a fairly sizeable chunk of their work, so I fear there may be redundancies there unless another carrier takes over the fleet/crew pronto.

For us, the loss of the Ryanair LGW-BFS route for 4 months, coupled with the winter reduction in Thomas Cook flights, has led to our glorious leaders asking for volunteers to take 2-6 weeks unpaid holiday. If they don't get volunteers? Who knows...

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Re: TMR's all new "Tales from the Underworld" thread
« Reply #1652 on: October 02, 2017, 10:32:45 AM »
So by all accounts Monarch is going belly up tomorrow and I can't see Ryanair surviving their public relations cock up. Will this mean even less beer money Moanio?

Potentially. We don't handle Monarch, but I have a number of friends at Airline Services who are their handlers. Monarch is a fairly sizeable chunk of their work, so I fear there may be redundancies there unless another carrier takes over the fleet/crew pronto.

For us, the loss of the Ryanair LGW-BFS route for 4 months, coupled with the winter reduction in Thomas Cook flights, has led to our glorious leaders asking for volunteers to take 2-6 weeks unpaid holiday. If they don't get volunteers? Who knows...
noooo:  not good

Daft thing is Monarch said they were carrying more passengers than before but the price war cut their margins.  Surely supply-demand economics says that must mean there's even more flights out there to be bagged and debagged.  He guessed
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Re: TMR's all new "Tales from the Underworld" thread
« Reply #1653 on: October 02, 2017, 11:00:47 AM »
Monarch lost a lot of trade to Egypt, Turkey and Tunisia as a result of fears of terrorism. To compensate they shifted flights to the cut-throat Mediterrean/Greek routes, where they were simply not able to compete on price with easyJet, Ryanair and Jet2. Add to this the increased fuel costs due to the lower value of the and the end result was pretty inevitable. A real shame.

There are rumours that easyJet or Jet2 might pick up the airframes and crews, but I'm not so sure. Jet2 is all Boeing so the the acquisition of 45 Airbus isn't ideal. LoCo airlines don't want mixed fleets as it increases costs considerably.

easyJet are all CFM-56 engined, Monarch mainly IAEV2500 engined - again unattractive for LoCo.

Interestingly, Wizz Air (Airbus, IAEV2500 engined) have just set up Wizz Air UK Ltd. Wonder why?

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Re: TMR's all new "Tales from the Underworld" thread
« Reply #1654 on: October 02, 2017, 11:19:45 AM »
It could be that they are seeing blood in the water in regards to Ryanair and are preparing accordingly. Even if the pilots get their way and O'Leary is sacked I can't see them recovering from this.
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Re: TMR's all new "Tales from the Underworld" thread
« Reply #1655 on: October 02, 2017, 12:23:30 PM »
Monarch lost a lot of trade to Egypt, Turkey and Tunisia as a result of fears of terrorism. To compensate they shifted flights to the cut-throat Mediterrean/Greek routes, where they were simply not able to compete on price with easyJet, Ryanair and Jet2. Add to this the increased fuel costs due to the lower value of the and the end result was pretty inevitable. A real shame.

There are rumours that easyJet or Jet2 might pick up the airframes and crews, but I'm not so sure. Jet2 is all Boeing so the the acquisition of 45 Airbus isn't ideal. LoCo airlines don't want mixed fleets as it increases costs considerably.

easyJet are all CFM-56 engined, Monarch mainly IAEV2500 engined - again unattractive for LoCo.

Interestingly, Wizz Air (Airbus, IAEV2500 engined) have just set up Wizz Air UK Ltd. Wonder why?
Got to be a hope.  There's business out there to be had.
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Re: TMR's all new "Tales from the Underworld" thread
« Reply #1658 on: November 03, 2017, 08:58:00 AM »
DHL assumed ground handling responsibilities for easyJet at midnight 31st October.

In the preceding days, the physical split from the old company involved moving all their stuff from the North terminal baggage sortation area to the South. Chairs, stationery, lockers, IT equipment, tea bags - anything they deemed to be "theirs". The behaviour of some of the so-called Supervisors was nothing short of appalling, with much pushing and shoving over trivial things like a box of pens. Most of these people had worked with each other for 10 years and all the pent up grievances and grudges came flooding out in a quite pathetic spectacle. As I left on Tuesday evening a steady stream of brand new DHL equipment was flooding in through the security gates - 60 new electric baggage tugs (30,000 each) 20 new pushback tugs (200,000 each) 20 belt loaders (40,000 each, some electric) 40 sets of aircraft steps, 150 baggage carts.

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Re: TMR's all new "Tales from the Underworld" thread
« Reply #1659 on: November 03, 2017, 09:31:41 AM »
DHL assumed ground handling responsibilities for easyJet at midnight 31st October.

In the preceding days, the physical split from the old company involved moving all their stuff from the North terminal baggage sortation area to the South. Chairs, stationery, lockers, IT equipment, tea bags - anything they deemed to be "theirs". The behaviour of some of the so-called Supervisors was nothing short of appalling, with much pushing and shoving over trivial things like a box of pens. Most of these people had worked with each other for 10 years and all the pent up grievances and grudges came flooding out in a quite pathetic spectacle. As I left on Tuesday evening a steady stream of brand new DHL equipment was flooding in through the security gates - 60 new electric baggage tugs (30,000 each) 20 new pushback tugs (200,000 each) 20 belt loaders (40,000 each, some electric) 40 sets of aircraft steps, 150 baggage carts.

Hope they remembered a few boxes of pens  whistle:

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So why the fuck are you on gardening leave...? Shrugs:
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Re: TMR's all new "Tales from the Underworld" thread
« Reply #1660 on: November 03, 2017, 09:46:34 AM »
DHL assumed ground handling responsibilities for easyJet at midnight 31st October.

In the preceding days, the physical split from the old company involved moving all their stuff from the North terminal baggage sortation area to the South. Chairs, stationery, lockers, IT equipment, tea bags - anything they deemed to be "theirs". The behaviour of some of the so-called Supervisors was nothing short of appalling, with much pushing and shoving over trivial things like a box of pens. Most of these people had worked with each other for 10 years and all the pent up grievances and grudges came flooding out in a quite pathetic spectacle. As I left on Tuesday evening a steady stream of brand new DHL equipment was flooding in through the security gates - 60 new electric baggage tugs (30,000 each) 20 new pushback tugs (200,000 each) 20 belt loaders (40,000 each, some electric) 40 sets of aircraft steps, 150 baggage carts.

Hope they remembered a few boxes of pens  whistle:

Funny and sad at the same time.  But if they need paperclips BM has got billions of them going cheap
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Re: TMR's all new "Tales from the Underworld" thread
« Reply #1661 on: November 03, 2017, 09:51:13 AM »
DHL assumed ground handling responsibilities for easyJet at midnight 31st October.

In the preceding days, the physical split from the old company involved moving all their stuff from the North terminal baggage sortation area to the South. Chairs, stationery, lockers, IT equipment, tea bags - anything they deemed to be "theirs". The behaviour of some of the so-called Supervisors was nothing short of appalling, with much pushing and shoving over trivial things like a box of pens. Most of these people had worked with each other for 10 years and all the pent up grievances and grudges came flooding out in a quite pathetic spectacle. As I left on Tuesday evening a steady stream of brand new DHL equipment was flooding in through the security gates - 60 new electric baggage tugs (30,000 each) 20 new pushback tugs (200,000 each) 20 belt loaders (40,000 each, some electric) 40 sets of aircraft steps, 150 baggage carts.

Hope they remembered a few boxes of pens  whistle:

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So why the fuck are you on gardening leave...? Shrugs:

It all got a bit nasty after I resigned. 2 of the baggage controllers who were meant to be TUPE'd across to DHL were suddenly offered better shifts if they didn't go. Last minute poaching. I doubt whether this inducement will be honoured. No great loss though as they are both lazy and fuck-witted.

I can't start until my secuity pass is transferred over and the old company is dragging their feet over this. Probably because the 2 controllers I work with (2 of the best  :thumbsup:) are now thinking of following me over. Lots of horse trading going on in the background, I expect a phone call from one of the Duty Managers today.

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Re: TMR's all new "Tales from the Underworld" thread
« Reply #1662 on: November 03, 2017, 09:59:45 AM »
DHL assumed ground handling responsibilities for easyJet at midnight 31st October.

In the preceding days, the physical split from the old company involved moving all their stuff from the North terminal baggage sortation area to the South. Chairs, stationery, lockers, IT equipment, tea bags - anything they deemed to be "theirs". The behaviour of some of the so-called Supervisors was nothing short of appalling, with much pushing and shoving over trivial things like a box of pens. Most of these people had worked with each other for 10 years and all the pent up grievances and grudges came flooding out in a quite pathetic spectacle. As I left on Tuesday evening a steady stream of brand new DHL equipment was flooding in through the security gates - 60 new electric baggage tugs (30,000 each) 20 new pushback tugs (200,000 each) 20 belt loaders (40,000 each, some electric) 40 sets of aircraft steps, 150 baggage carts.

Hope they remembered a few boxes of pens  whistle:

 lol: lol: lol:

So why the fuck are you on gardening leave...? Shrugs:

It all got a bit nasty after I resigned. 2 of the baggage controllers who were meant to be TUPE'd across to DHL were suddenly offered better shifts if they didn't go. Last minute poaching. I doubt whether this inducement will be honoured. No great loss though as they are both lazy and fuck-witted.

I can't start until my secuity pass is transferred over and the old company is dragging their feet over this. Probably because the 2 controllers I work with (2 of the best  :thumbsup:) are now thinking of following me over. Lots of horse trading going on in the background, I expect a phone call from one of the Duty Managers today.

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Re: TMR's all new "Tales from the Underworld" thread
« Reply #1663 on: November 03, 2017, 10:00:08 AM »
Have you fixed your minimal day rate for getting out of bed ?

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