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Offline Bar Wench

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Sympathy
« on: December 02, 2008, 12:43:13 PM »
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7746174.stm

This entire article seems to have been written to garner sympathy for the unemployed. And whilst I have a degree of it for the deaths and some of the trauma the family have suffered overwhelmingly my feeling is one of outrage!

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Without any qualifications she assumed she wasn't able to follow her chosen path and join the Army. She never actually made it to the recruitment office to ask.

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"All my pals are looking for work as well. But it's not that easy to get a job straightaway, you've got to write out your CV and everything and then hand it in to places."

You don't say! Looking for work should be full time employment! No bugger is going silver plate you a job FFS!  Banghead
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Re: Sympathy
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2008, 01:00:05 PM »
True but the latest Government statistics show that there are some 3 million without jobs (if you believe such a low figure) and only 40,000 vacancies registered. That imbalance has to he addressed before you can expect people like those interviewed (who seem to have had a rough deal anyway) to have any chance of getting any sort of work.
Additionally job centre staff, in the main, are only interested in ticking boxes ~ they don't actually try to find people work. The days when employers used to get a weekly call from their local job centre actively looking for vacancies have long gone ~ Yes they really used to do that and they used to follow up everyone they sent to an interview by calling the employer to ask why the person had been turned down and if the vacancy was still available for others to be sent along.
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Re: Sympathy
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2008, 01:11:00 PM »
Oh I am sure there is an imbalance, but there are jobs available and some people just aren't prepared to do the minimum. Like apply!  ::)
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Re: Sympathy
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2008, 01:15:36 PM »
Applications is what the Job Centre Plus work on ~ they are quite happy to keep paying you so long as you keep sending in applications for jobs. Every so often they want you to go on a course to "brush up your job finding skills"  This usually consists of an 18year old telling you to look in newspapers and on-line to find vacancies and then pulling your CV apart and putting it back together again, usually poorly spelt. They also like to give you a little pep talk every now and again so that you don't get demotivated.

The key to that family in the BBC example would be education and some serious psychiatric help.
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Re: Sympathy
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2008, 01:26:50 PM »
Quote from: Bar Wench on December 02, 2008, 01:11:00 PM
Oh I am sure there is an imbalance, but there are jobs available and some people just aren't prepared to do the minimum. Like apply!  ::)

I have to agree on that one, we have a thriving immigrant community in Cornwall who take on every job they can find, normally the ones that a lot of the people 'looking' for work consider beneath them.

I had a blazing row with a local the other day who was furious that these people were coming to Cornwall and taking 'Cornish jobs' when I pointed out that if the unemployed wanted to go daffodil/strawberry/etc picking for example they could do so just as easily.
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Re: Sympathy
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2008, 06:50:34 AM »
Quote from: Bar Wench on December 02, 2008, 01:11:00 PM
Oh I am sure there is an imbalance, but there are jobs available and some people just aren't prepared to do the minimum. Like apply!  ::)

I have taken on 16 people in the past couple of months, and I'm interviewing for four more posts today. OK, the jobs are at the so-called "low-end" of the market, with a basic of £22,000, but overtime can add at least 50% to that. The ones that always improve their chances are the ones that come through the door asking if we have any vacancies, it shows that they are prepared to get off their arses and go and find work.
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Re: Sympathy
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2008, 10:43:55 AM »
Ummm what is it you are employing for JOM?
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Re: Sympathy
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2008, 10:50:25 AM »
Quote from: Bar Wench on December 03, 2008, 10:43:55 AM
Ummm what is it you are employing for JOM?
He's unlikely to be employing people that play on t'interweb all day...  whistle:
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Re: Sympathy
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2008, 10:51:35 AM »
Apart from himself, like
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Re: Sympathy
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2008, 11:19:04 AM »
Quote from: Barman on December 03, 2008, 10:50:25 AM
Quote from: Bar Wench on December 03, 2008, 10:43:55 AM
Ummm what is it you are employing for JOM?
He's unlikely to be employing people that play on t'interweb all day...  whistle:

That could change!
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Re: Sympathy
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2008, 11:24:08 AM »
How are your mopping and dusting skills?
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Re: Sympathy
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2008, 12:56:59 PM »
Quote from: Bar Wench on December 03, 2008, 10:43:55 AM
Ummm what is it you are employing for JOM?

General labourers, HGV drivers
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Re: Sympathy
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2008, 12:59:15 PM »
You're going to dig up some more of my home county you vandal  cussing:
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Re: Sympathy
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2008, 01:26:42 PM »
Quote from: Just One More on December 03, 2008, 12:56:59 PM
Quote from: Bar Wench on December 03, 2008, 10:43:55 AM
Ummm what is it you are employing for JOM?

General labourers, HGV drivers

 rubschin:

You need a drivers licence for that don't you really.

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Re: Sympathy
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2008, 01:31:20 PM »
Quote from: Bar Wench on December 03, 2008, 01:26:42 PM
Quote from: Just One More on December 03, 2008, 12:56:59 PM
Quote from: Bar Wench on December 03, 2008, 10:43:55 AM
Ummm what is it you are employing for JOM?

General labourers, HGV drivers

 rubschin:

You need a drivers licence for that don't you really.

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And the ability to see, prolly...  whistle:
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