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So let me get this right...
« on: September 08, 2015, 05:37:57 AM »
Three British radical Muslims leg it to Syrie and join ISIS.

They hatch a plot to attack some major event in the UK

Knowing of this the RAF sends a drone and kills them

Hurrah

Cue: national hand wringing, demands for an inquiry, weeping and wailing on the BBC and, incredibly, in Cardiff

Also in the news, a Syrian family safely living in Turkey for THREE YEARS decide to get in a dinghy and head for Greece. Images of the drowned kids cause an outbreak of international hysteria demanding that hundreds of thousands of "refugees" (many of them fit young Muslim men) are admitted to Europe and given asylum.

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Re: So let me get this right...
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2015, 07:39:39 AM »
Completely mad....  noooo:

And Call Me Dave caves in after five minutes and agrees to take twenty thousand of them!  Banghead
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Re: So let me get this right...
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2015, 08:02:01 AM »
Completely mad....  noooo:

And Call Me Dave caves in after five minutes and agrees to take twenty thousand of them!  Banghead

Are they all going to Cardiff?

I think he is just making jam-tomorrow promises so the Krauts have time to do something to the 'rules' before we have to take any.

Although, Germany still has some way to go to get its Semite population back to pre-1939 levels.
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Re: So let me get this right...
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2015, 09:31:47 AM »
Three British radical Muslims leg it to Syrie and join ISIS.

They hatch a plot to attack some major event in the UK

Knowing of this the RAF sends a drone and kills them

Hurrah

Cue: national hand wringing, demands for an inquiry, weeping and wailing on the BBC and, incredibly, in Cardiff

Also in the news, a Syrian family safely living in Turkey for THREE YEARS decide to get in a dinghy and head for Greece. Images of the drowned kids cause an outbreak of international hysteria demanding that hundreds of thousands of "refugees" (many of them fit young Muslim men) are admitted to Europe and given asylum.

It's all BONKERS  evil:
Was it ever thus

FWIW (and cue abuse from Pissouri?) I think CMD got it about right.  Erased those gits plotting evil, agreed to admit a fraction of what popular sentiment would have us take and then says it's over 4 years  Thumbs: and even better none of those marauding hooligans at Calais qualify  Thumbs: Thumbs:

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Re: So let me get this right...
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2015, 12:19:53 PM »
I do feel a tad worried about the drone strike. We not at war, they haven't actually done anything apart from plotting and it seems to me to be more state sanctioned murder than a legitimate and defensible action. 'tis a slippery slope.

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Re: So let me get this right...
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2015, 12:34:04 PM »
I do feel a tad worried about the drone strike. We not at war, they haven't actually done anything apart from plotting and it seems to me to be more state sanctioned murder than a legitimate and defensible action. 'tis a slippery slope.

I know what you mean, but if ISIS had drones I doubt they would hesitate to use them at random against any of us.
As far as they are concerned they are in a war, just no paperwork has been completed.
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Re: So let me get this right...
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2015, 12:42:11 PM »
But we are not ISIS and I expect the UK to maintain the moral high ground.

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Re: So let me get this right...
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2015, 12:52:33 PM »
But we are not ISIS and I expect the UK to maintain the moral high ground.
CMD was in an impossible position though.  It's hardly moral to refuse to protect your own citizens because some could interpret that 2013 debate as saying he had to get MPs approval first.
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Re: So let me get this right...
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2015, 01:01:10 PM »
What I worry about is that we now punish people for something they might do.

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Re: So let me get this right...
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2015, 01:13:21 PM »
What I worry about is that we now punish people for something they might do.

No shortage of precedent there. Locking up a yob who carries a gun/knife because he might shoot/stab someone still gets my vote.

I agree that blowing them to bits by remote control is a bit more extreme, but it does offer a practical solution with broadly the same outcome.

These people are unlikely to give up ISIS and come home to lead a productive life in our society.
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Re: So let me get this right...
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2015, 01:49:39 PM »
Cyprus has announced it will take 300 refugees but.......only Christians.....

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Re: So let me get this right...
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2015, 02:35:54 PM »
What I worry about is that we now punish people for something they might do.

No shortage of precedent there. Locking up a yob who carries a gun/knife because he might shoot/stab someone still gets my vote.

I agree that blowing them to bits by remote control is a bit more extreme, but it does offer a practical solution with broadly the same outcome.

These people are unlikely to give up ISIS and come home to lead a productive life in our society.
Yes we're unlikely to ever know what the exact intel was but it certainly looks like he was actively directing resources in the UK for murder, possibly mass murder.  Call me a big softie but if that's the only reliable way to stop him, that means take him out in my book. 
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Re: So let me get this right...
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2015, 02:37:52 PM »
Cyprus has announced it will take 300 refugees but.......only Christians.....

True story...

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Re: So let me get this right...
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2015, 03:20:57 PM »
Cyprus has announced it will take 300 refugees but.......only Christians.....

True story...

I have just become Christian  angel1  Where is my flat?

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Re: So let me get this right...
« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2015, 04:52:30 PM »
Cyprus has announced it will take 300 refugees but.......only Christians.....

True story...

I have just become Christian  angel1  Where is my flat?

Nearside front.
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