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Title: Microsoft Office Subscriptions
Post by: Nick on May 02, 2016, 06:26:53 AM
Got an e mail telling me that my Office subscription has lapsed and that Office will cease to work on my pooter tonight  evil:

Ideally I want to buy it on disk so that I pay a one off price, but they seem to be making this a tad difficult  cussing: cussing:

Any suggestions? Have tried the freee alternatives (Open Office) but don't really get on with them. Or does someone have a disk they can lend me, like  whistle:
Title: Re: Microsoft Office Subscriptions
Post by: Barman on May 02, 2016, 06:39:39 AM
Got an e mail telling me that my Office subscription has lapsed and that Office will cease to work on my pooter tonight  evil:

Ideally I want to buy it on disk so that I pay a one off price, but they seem to be making this a tad difficult  cussing: cussing:

Any suggestions? Have tried the freee alternatives (Open Office) but don't really get on with them. Or does someone have a disk they can lend me, like  whistle:

I have a disk but it is Office 2003...

Open Office is excellent - you have to persist with it and some things are (rather annoyingly) in different places but a quick Google always points you in the right direction...

A bargain at the price!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Microsoft Office Subscriptions
Post by: Miss Demeanour on May 02, 2016, 08:32:59 AM
we have a special offer on at work at the moment - cos they have just introduced Office 365  and they are selling it to staff for home use for the offer of a tenner for the download and another tenner for the dvd backup disk  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Microsoft Office Subscriptions
Post by: Nick on May 02, 2016, 08:39:43 AM
 rubschin:
Title: Re: Microsoft Office Subscriptions
Post by: Steve on May 02, 2016, 10:31:56 AM
Got an e mail telling me that my Office subscription has lapsed and that Office will cease to work on my pooter tonight  evil:

Ideally I want to buy it on disk so that I pay a one off price, but they seem to be making this a tad difficult  cussing: cussing:

Any suggestions? Have tried the freee alternatives (Open Office) but don't really get on with them. Or does someone have a disk they can lend me, like  whistle:
Well it's £162 at Amazon (£94 if personal use).  Is that "a tad difficult"?   noooo:  Pricey maybe.

And yes in my experience those free ones can be incomplete.  Some of the cleverer features just aren't there as I found out with conditional formatting.  OK for 99.9% of personal use.
Title: Re: Microsoft Office Subscriptions
Post by: Nick on May 02, 2016, 10:36:47 AM
I  got fed up off "renting" it for £80 a year cussing: cussing: cussing:

Might look at the AMazong version rubschin:
Title: Re: Microsoft Office Subscriptions
Post by: Nick on May 02, 2016, 03:15:58 PM
Downloaded Home and Student for one off payment of £74 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Microsoft Office Subscriptions
Post by: apc2010 on May 02, 2016, 03:45:51 PM
Downloaded Home and Student for one off payment of £74 :thumbsup:

 eeek:   Shocked:
Title: Re: Microsoft Office Subscriptions
Post by: Steve on May 02, 2016, 05:46:28 PM
Downloaded Home and Student for one off payment of £74 :thumbsup:
And you are never going to use it for business?

IIRC Home and Student leaves a detectable watermark in every document created

Title: Re: Microsoft Office Subscriptions
Post by: Barman on May 02, 2016, 05:56:28 PM
Downloaded Home and Student for one off payment of £74 :thumbsup:
And you are never going to use it for business?

IIRC Home and Student leaves a detectable watermark in every document created

happy001
Title: Re: Microsoft Office Subscriptions
Post by: Nick on May 02, 2016, 05:57:02 PM
 eeek:

Nah, just checked it. All fine  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Microsoft Office Subscriptions
Post by: Steve on May 02, 2016, 06:49:47 PM
Downloaded Home and Student for one off payment of £74 :thumbsup:
And you are never going to use it for business?

IIRC Home and Student leaves a detectable watermark in every document created

happy001

So lets get this right

Could they do it? Yes
Why wouldn't they do it?  No reason
Can anyone decode that preamble at the front of every Office file?  No


The only question is would they actually act on it?  Shrugs:



Title: Re: Microsoft Office Subscriptions
Post by: Nick on May 02, 2016, 06:52:15 PM
 Shrugs:
Title: Re: Microsoft Office Subscriptions
Post by: Barman on May 02, 2016, 06:55:07 PM
Shrugs:

Just buy the proper thing... ::)
Title: Re: Microsoft Office Subscriptions
Post by: Nick on May 02, 2016, 06:56:33 PM
I have and it bleddy works  cussing: cussing: cussing: cussing:
Title: Re: Microsoft Office Subscriptions
Post by: apc2010 on May 02, 2016, 07:02:19 PM
Shrugs:

Just buy the proper thing... ::)

Cheap..... noooo:
Title: Re: Microsoft Office Subscriptions
Post by: Nick on May 02, 2016, 07:06:29 PM
Downloaded Home and Student for one off payment of £74 :thumbsup:

 eeek:   Shocked:

 whistle:
Title: Re: Microsoft Office Subscriptions
Post by: Steve on May 06, 2016, 01:55:34 PM
So now I may have to buy a full Office subscription  evil:

An email floods in confirming Microsoft's evil plan to ditch Live Mail

____________________________________________________________________________
Action required for users of Windows Live Mail 2012

Dear User,
 
Earlier this year we introduced a new Outl‍ook‍.‍com that will help you collaborate with others, focus on what matters, and get more done. The new Outlo‍ok‍.‍com delivers an exciting set of new experiences across web, phone, and desktop, and we’re eager for you to start using it. 
 
It appears that you are currently using Windows Live Mail 2012 to connect to your Out‍look‍.‍com account. Windows Live Mail 2012 does not support the synchronization technologies used by the new Outl‍ook‍.‍com. When account upgrades begin at the end of June, you will no longer be able to receive email sent to your Out‍look‍.‍com account in Windows Live Mail 2012. Rest assured, you can always access your email by logging into Out‍look‍.‍com from any web browser, and you will continue to have access to all your data that is currently in Windows Live Mail 2012. 
 

If you currently use Windows Live Mail 2012, we recommend that you switch to the Mail app in Windows to‍day. The Mail app is built in to Windows 8/8.1 and Windows 10, and has a more modern design. To begin using it, simply launch the app and add your Out‍look‍.‍com account
 ____________________________________________________________________________

 Banghead  That Win 10 Mail App is utter shite not that Win 10 runs on this PC  cry:

But Ios 9 on a Mac comes with a decent mail and calendar App.  Time to ditch Windows?  rubschin:
Title: Re: Microsoft Office Subscriptions
Post by: Nick on May 06, 2016, 02:00:01 PM
Or just use gmail  whistle:
Title: Re: Microsoft Office Subscriptions
Post by: Steve on May 06, 2016, 02:10:55 PM
Or just use gmail  whistle:
And that would add just what?   A: nothing

Live Mail is the application and they're ending support for all the email systems.  Yes I still get the web access but that is stuff all use if you want to read mails offline.
Title: Re: Microsoft Office Subscriptions
Post by: Nick on May 06, 2016, 02:14:25 PM
You can import stuff to gmail from your other e mail addresses whistle:
Title: Re: Microsoft Office Subscriptions
Post by: Steve on May 06, 2016, 02:28:22 PM
You can import stuff to gmail from your other e mail addresses whistle:
So?

I want to have available offline all my emails not just the month's worth the Gmail Chrome App gives you.  I've got emails going back to before Noah was a glint in his dad's eye.  Anyway Google read your mail so they can send you targeted emails and ads.

It's going to have to be Outlook and that doesn't get bundled in Office Home/Student so I'm back to the same £45 a year or £160 forever issue you had.

 evil: evil: evil:



Title: Re: Microsoft Office Subscriptions
Post by: Nick on May 06, 2016, 02:30:37 PM
 point: point: point:

Microsoft are bastards  cussing: cussing: cussing:
Title: Re: Microsoft Office Subscriptions
Post by: Steve on May 06, 2016, 02:45:07 PM
point: point: point:

Microsoft are bastards  cussing: cussing: cussing:
Yes but we'd do exactly the same if we were them
Title: Re: Microsoft Office Subscriptions
Post by: Nick on May 06, 2016, 02:47:28 PM
Moi?  angel1
Title: Re: Microsoft Office Subscriptions
Post by: Barman on May 06, 2016, 02:48:31 PM
Thunderbird...?
Title: Re: Microsoft Office Subscriptions
Post by: Steve on May 06, 2016, 02:54:50 PM
Thunderbird...?
Worth a try ta

Gmail offline told me to fuckoff with my hotmail   "Sorry, Google doesn't recognize that email."
Title: Re: Microsoft Office Subscriptions
Post by: Darwins Selection on May 06, 2016, 04:14:01 PM
Thunderbird...?
Worth a try ta

Gmail offline told me to fuckoff with my hotmail   "Sorry, Google doesn't recognize that email."

Yes but we'd do exactly the same if we were them

 whistle:
Title: Re: Microsoft Office Subscriptions
Post by: Steve on May 06, 2016, 06:10:33 PM
 cry:
Title: Re: Microsoft Office Subscriptions
Post by: Steve on May 06, 2016, 06:30:33 PM
Thunderbird...?
So far very impressive  :thumbsup:   But with its limited development support there must be a risk it will also fail to handle Hotmail/Outlook after June.  But we'll see

Title: Re: Microsoft Office Subscriptions
Post by: Grumpmeister on May 06, 2016, 08:12:01 PM
This may help...

http://www.techradar.com/news/software/applications/windows-7-email-5-best-free-clients-903699 (http://www.techradar.com/news/software/applications/windows-7-email-5-best-free-clients-903699)
Title: Re: Microsoft Office Subscriptions
Post by: Steve on May 06, 2016, 09:04:49 PM
This may help...

http://www.techradar.com/news/software/applications/windows-7-email-5-best-free-clients-903699 (http://www.techradar.com/news/software/applications/windows-7-email-5-best-free-clients-903699)
Cheers Meister  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Microsoft Office Subscriptions
Post by: Steve on September 15, 2016, 07:20:06 PM
This may help...

http://www.techradar.com/news/software/applications/windows-7-email-5-best-free-clients-903699 (http://www.techradar.com/news/software/applications/windows-7-email-5-best-free-clients-903699)
Cheers Meister  :thumbsup:
Well 4 months later the bastards finally turned off hotmail syncing for my account

But good news  smile:

You can still configure Windows Live Mail to work with hotmail

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windowslive/wiki/livemail-email/windows-live-mail-and-outlook-mail/6edb5ba6-f9f2-40fd-80a1-fc23cc6fbfe0 (http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windowslive/wiki/livemail-email/windows-live-mail-and-outlook-mail/6edb5ba6-f9f2-40fd-80a1-fc23cc6fbfe0)

Don't be fooled by the URL this wasn't Microshit being helpful but someone posted the fix on their hosted forum

Just can't get the calendar and contacts to sync   Banghead
Title: Re: Microsoft Office Subscriptions
Post by: Steve on October 15, 2016, 10:26:15 AM
And a further update

But first an important point:  today is the last day that you can get a free one year Office 365 subscription (you have to have a microsoft hotmail account)

Anyway it turns out that Windows Live mail using IMAP access is crap as it won't let you blind copy.  It says it does but so blind that the blind recipient doesn't see them.  And it's surprising how often I do blind copy (mainly to Mrs K)

So reluctantly I have gone to Office 365 using the free one year offer (see above).  The 1TB cloud storage is good and you get Word, Excel etc (butI already had those) and you get full Outlook

And does Outlook import your hotmail contacts correctly?   noooo: Banghead Banghead it ges the display names hopelessly wrong

But there are fixes so if anyone is also down this path please say
Title: Re: Microsoft Office Subscriptions
Post by: Darwins Selection on October 15, 2016, 10:39:34 AM
And a further update

But first an important point:  today is the last day that you can get a free one year Office 365 subscription (you have to have a microsoft hotmail account)

Anyway it turns out that Windows Live mail using IMAP access is crap as it won't let you blind copy.  It says it does but so blind that the blind recipient doesn't see them.  And it's surprising how often I do blind copy (mainly to Mrs K)

So reluctantly I have gone to Office 365 using the free one year offer (see above).  The 1TB cloud storage is good and you get Word, Excel etc (butI already had those) and you get full Outlook

And does Outlook import your hotmail contacts correctly?   noooo: Banghead Banghead it ges the display names hopelessly wrong

But there are fixes so if anyone is also down this path please say
Shrugs:

Bring back Telex I say.
Title: Re: Microsoft Office Subscriptions
Post by: Steve on October 15, 2016, 11:45:33 AM
Your man refusing to do motorcycle telegram delivery now?

Title: Re: Microsoft Office Subscriptions
Post by: Darwins Selection on October 15, 2016, 12:16:49 PM
Your man refusing to do motorcycle telegram delivery now?

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5305/5637591198_43ac04569b_b.jpg)

 cloud9:
Title: Re: Microsoft Office Subscriptions
Post by: Steve on October 15, 2016, 04:07:49 PM
 :thumbsup: